Look at this LOL

Please Sign this. Razor Edge Owner Admiting to using several different breeds to make his dogs.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/132176281?ltl=1160502342

 

signed. bada bing.

 

thats the same one as is in the should the ukc pull the papers thread aint it?
ah well either way i am for it so i will sign.#39

 

couldnt live with my self if i didnt sign.

 

Got my sig. I hope this petition leads to real action.

 

I signed it. I hope the ukc will do something about this but I doubt it.

 

I dont think Im ready to sign this just yet.. I understand everyones thought pattern here,this guy is taking different types of bulldogs to make this thing he calls bully`s at least that is what Im getting out of it but then again Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer either. Anyways I can`t sign because this guy claims he created a New BREED of dog. Al breeds of dogs were created through the mixing of different types of breeds to create and develop a type of dog with the qualities and traits that person is looking for. Don`t get me wrong now Im an old school dogman and dont like to mix my stuff with anything but if this guy wanted to try and create a breed that himself and other people could love and enjoy then so be it and he was sucessful. Just my humble opinion, let the bashing begin....

 

I guess the guy can breed and feed what he wants.....should the registries allow him to register theses animals that he creates.....Nope,Not as APBT... as they are not bred to standard.

Now with consideration of these breeders, should they be allowed to name and register their animals ......yeah,I think they have been around long enough as they are clearly established. Give em thier own name !

 

Let me first say, I dont like R.E. Dogs, that is a line I dont deal with, but I did see his responses to the accusations and thought i would share them.

From the man's own mouth:
re-post from the greyline board- when asked about the "report" Dave Wilson responded:

First off I never said any of that!
I wrote my rebuttle a day before and it says things way different.
That guys article was from what he gathered at the event, I never even talked to him.
I had so much to fight to get this event to even go on!
The news paper dogged the breed and the event two days before!
That article had alot of mis-quotes and other things never said in it. I was a little mad that they used my name with things I never said.
Then when I stepped back and saw that it was a positive write up on the event, it didn't bother me anymore.
All that matters is that they said good things about the dogs and event. A community who was against the breed has now changed its perception!
Some of you still want to stir drama and make BS out of something positive for the breed?

When asked about the other breeds in the line:


And in my line I used UKC show lines all APBT's, AKC show lines all AST's, and ADBA lines all APBT's. That's what I used in the creation of Razors Edge! To some they are different breeds and to some they are all the same. I could care less, that how I made my line.

Bulldogs, Mastiffs, and all those other mixes weren't used in my line. Just what I said.

I call them American Bullies for a reason. We all call them Bullies anyway, and they are NOT bred the same way and for the same purposes as the original "Pit Bulls". The blood may all stem back to 100% true Pit Bull blood, but the purpose and looked changed many years ago!
Obviously most people on these boards like the new look!
Greyline is really on the same page as Razors Edge...

And when asked about how he felt about the event overall:

That article was from the local paper and they messed up a lot of peoples comments. Really all that mattered was they had positive things to say and that public perception was changed!

 

OK so from what you posted stating what he supposedly said, he never said that he mixed anything in but at the same time he also said when he read the article he didn't care because it was all a positive event for the breed. If someone is putting words in your mouth that you didn't say then why let them get away with it especially if it's such a big deal or is his bloodlines not a big deal to him?
I don't agree with him even calling his dogs bullies, but I sure will sign the petition if it helps to get the papers pulled and I'll be sure to post that link in a few places just to help. I think they should start in the original breeders yard(Dave Wilson) with an investigation to and examine his dogs thoroughly.

 

There are some people doing some strange stuff. Here in eastern Canada i seen an add in a paper for a fellow selling minature bras dor bulldogs. I called them and asked them what a bras dor bulldog was, the guys wife told me it,s a recipe of diff bulldogs he,s breeding to make his own,, by the way bras dor is a town in my area, I,m taking it thats where this guy is from. He was selling the pups for 500 dollars a pop.

 

I'm sure people will continue to experiment with mixing APBTs' to Bluffs to Bulldogs to Rottweilers and whatever is bulky. I remember when Rotty were the fashion and people still mix them with other dogs to get "something better"

 

Let me get this strait. You're a moderator on this site and you feel making a new breed and calling it a APBT for a few decades is ok with you! You can't sign because you agree he is doing something good or creating a new breed of dog! When a person develops a new breed he has to have a goal and set of objectives, a breeding program and a name for the dang thing. Using a given name for your mutt is wrong and yes every dog ever registered by him or any one that bought dogs from him, and every one doing the same practice as him should have their registrations revolked and if they want to register them as something give it a name petition a registry to register them as a breed. I will tell you this a breed has to exist as a standard for several years even several decads. They have yet to get a written standard for the mutts. I fail to understand how you can be a moderator and not understand that simple truth. You have got to be pulling my chain and joking with us because otherwise I can't see where you have the credentials to moderate a game dog site. This isn't a bully breed site. No those mutts are not game and never could or would be. I would put my crappiest dog up against one of them in a second. That is of course it was legal or in a country that allowed such:rolleyes: You said you are old school well damn it ball up and show it. WTF I can't friggen believe you typed that load. I have all the respect of what I thought were all the moderators but this load of crap doesn't lead me to feel that way about you at the moment. This person has been crapping in our events and registries enough. It is about time some one got rid of them for good and make them get their own name and registry. Developing a new breed. Blah Name it then and retract the registrations under false and hung registrations. Yah they were hung. Can't develop crap with hung papers!!!!

 

Right on point.
I co-sign my name to this post:

 

Oh and yes I signed as well. Sure did. Thanks Mr. Biggs. Glad to have your backing. Good man. rep to ya.

 

I just signed it.

 

got mine on there

 

I have already signed. Seen it on another board...

 

I have a question though, everyone wants papers pulled, whose papers? All dogs that have Razor Edge on or in them? Does that make any sense? Does UKC have time to DNA profile thousands of dogs? I don't understand the whole thing other than making him look bad and the people that buy his dogs, don't care anyway, so what is the whole point of this? UKC is not going to pull papers, just like ADBA never pulled any Whopper dog papers. This is just a waste of time.

 

Definitly had to sign that!!!!!!