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Fight Prevention

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Marty, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. John Galt

    John Galt Pup

    About 5 years ago I was walking my dog (9 years old) after midnight in a neighborhood where there are usually no loose dogs. As we walked, an Akita came out of a side yard, and grabbed him. I never saw the other dog until it hit my dog. My dog quickly got loose from the other dog, and got a hold on the Akita's head. I never let go of the lead. Within 10-15 seconds, the Akita was crying and moaning. I knew my dog would turn loose of the head hold and go for a better hold eventually. The Akita was already acting "shocky". My dog then went for a better hold and as he did I pulled him away by the lead. The Akita sprinted away like his rear end was on fire. If a car had been coming down the street, he would have hit it head on. Everything worked out, my dog had no injuries, and the Akita lived, the whole thing only lasted less than a minute. I had to drag my dog home, he wanted to follow the other dog and he remembered the way the other dog ran for a long time afterward. Every time I walked him he would pull me that way. My dog died a few years later. I miss him.
     
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  2. pearljams

    pearljams Pup

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    Dog aggression is a tricky business. To begin with, dog aggression (aggression directed by dogs toward other dogs) and human aggression (aggression directed toward humans) are entirely separate behaviors. It’s very common for dogs to exhibit some degree of intolerance toward their fellow canines but show only trust and affection for humans. Second, dogs of any breed can be dog aggressive. We at PBRC have lost track of the number of times we have been approached by off-leash aggressive dogs while responsibly walking our leashed pit bulls. Finally, dog aggression is not a matter of simply being dog aggressive or not dog aggressive. As we point out in our Breed Info page, it’s more accurate to think of dog aggression as a spectrum. Some dogs are completely tolerant of other dogs, others are completely intolerant, but most are somewhere in between.



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  3. I agree completely:D
     
  4. Properly introduced, a neutered male and a spayed female with compatible personalities should be fine. They will, however, require strict supervision all their lives. Please follow the guidelines offered by PBRC to insure the safety of your dogs and avoid unpleasant situations.

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  5. Protector

    Protector Pup

    I love Marty's post because it is right on point. I am one of the hated here as I am an Animal Control officer in my city but I am also a male pit owner and love love love the breed. I tend to be more considerate of pit bull owners when I recieve calls and complaints about fighting because I know the aggression level of pits. Their bred to never stop and no amount of socialization or training will completely rid them of that. Consider it an good attribute and just be smart with your dog or dogs. Just use caution.
     
  6. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ CH Dog

    Wonder whatever happend to Kaya, it's been about two years ain't it... thought they "couldn't wait to prove us wrong".
     
  7. Burger

    Burger Pup

    Your very right in saying that most people haven't even seen a fight, I have an Olde Victorian Bulldogge and an APBT.. both intact males and both have had 2 very severe battles. Lets just say that my Olde fights for his life when it breaks out... they are a bit older than 2 years old now and incidences are very few and far between as I work hard with them.. but I have had 2 separate occasions where separating the 2 dogs was impossible.. I'm not a small guy either, at 6'0 tall and 220Lbs. I had to employ the help of my 2 neighbors and use a breaking stick and water hose to get my pit off of my poor olde.. The power that these dogs have is beyond alarming and if your not prepared for an incident your going to be SHOCKED..
    My olde is 105Lbs and was getting thrown around like a ragedy anne doll by a 78Lb PBT....

    I'm proud to say that the last incident was over a year ago, and I think the bulldogge (instigator) has learned his place in the pecking order, as he was the one that picked and started both fights..
     
  8. OutInCA

    OutInCA Pup

    RE:About 5 years ago I was walking my dog (9 years old) after midnight in a neighborhood where there are usually no loose dogs. As we walked, an Akita came out of a side yard, and grabbed him. I never saw the other dog until it hit my dog. My dog quickly got loose from the other dog, and got a hold on the Akita's head. I never let go of the lead. Within 10-15 seconds, the Akita was crying and moaning. I knew my dog would turn loose of the head hold and go for a better hold eventually. The Akita was already acting "shocky". My dog then went for a better hold and as he did I pulled him away by the lead. The Akita sprinted away like his rear end was on fire. If a car had been coming down the street, he would have hit it head on. Everything worked out, my dog had no injuries, and the Akita lived, the whole thing only lasted less than a minute. I had to drag my dog home, he wanted to follow the other dog and he remembered the way the other dog ran for a long time afterward. Every time I walked him he would pull me that way. My dog died a few years later. I miss him.

    Your dog lives on and is watching over you. Spirits are a strange thing.

    I have my girls living together. They are all related. No crates. Grandma, momma, little sister all know their place. Ya, momma humps grandma. Grandma pees with one leg up. They get a little crazy when playing, but know their own place in the pack.

    The momma grooms cats if given the chance. It scares the shi.. out of the cats. Ha ha.;)
     

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  9. Declan

    Declan Pup

    Hi to all,thanks man to starting this new post and i will be very help full to us about dog behavior and i will help us to control the dog to thanks again for this.
     
  10. aruni

    aruni Pup

    hi
    Marty,...
    very nice sharing about this topic,..
    its very nice,..
     
  11. aruni

    aruni Pup

    hi
    Marty,...
    very nice sharing about this topic,..
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  12. very very informative! really loved what marty started this with! Bullyson, never stop! Even if we already know it, or think we do, it never ever hurts to keep impounding it!! thank u all!!!!:dogkiss:
     
  13. The very first thing we need to do, is to stop breeding aggressive dogs. To say you can't have a pit that is toward the bottom end of the spectrum when it comes to dog aggression is a complete falsehood. If a dog is at the top of that spectrum then it needs to be nuetered or better yet culled because it's useless. Why would anybody want a dog aggressive dog anyway? I understand what this breed was bred for, and i understand the preservation of that breed, but what about preserving the working dog side of the breed as well as the fighters? There were tons of pits all over the south and midwest used for working cattle, hogs and general ranch work, and dog aggression has no place in any of that. I use mine on hogs, a couple of times a week usually and if they were dog aggressive i wouldn't be able to do that. Dog aggression is going to cost us the right to own and work with this breed if we don't breed, train, or cull it out. just my opinion for what it's worth.
     
  14. dayair1

    dayair1 Big Dog

    You are uninformed, and ignorant to this breed. Get an American bulldog, or any other breed to do your "hog and bull work".
    If you bred out DA in the bulldog, it's no longer a bulldog.
    People need to get the "right" dog for the "right" job.!
    That not my opinion, its a fact!
     
  15. But what job would a dog agressive dog have? Legally? I am interested in a functional dog for real work. Even in weight pulling, can a dog who is very dog aggressive compete? Are the dogs that compete in the ADBA and other shows true representatives of the breed, because they can be near another dog without wanting to fight? I'm just saying that there are more ways than one to use these dogs. Why should a pit not be able to be as versatile as any other breed of working dog? Why focus on just one aspect? Please educate me on this because I just don't get it, and I don't mean that to be a smart aleck statement at all.
     
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  16. Irish Pitbull

    Irish Pitbull Top Dog

    Have you ever seen an ADBA show??? lol
     
  17. never, just pictures of the dogs, handlers etc.
     
  18. spliff

    spliff Big Dog

    they can be breed for other things and they are,there called amstaffs the yuppie,tree hugging,fur mommy shell of the apbt. some of us like to keep it how it was originally meant to be and to be honest the only way they should be. there's plenty of other breeds that are made to do the shit your talking about.now I'm gonna answer your question with another question HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO AN ADBA SHOW? most of those dogs cant be around other dogs and they are very well controlled and contained.i don't understand why people insist on trying to make this breed something there not instead of simply getting a breed that better fits there wants and needs.why focus on an aspect of the breed that is illegal?=why buy a car that can go 150mph when the speed limit is 65?
    because we can...
     
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  19. kingwood

    kingwood Pup

    I am requesting some advice and or comments.I live next door to a neighbor from hell.Three years ago my sons pit got oou of our yard.I heard the commotion and discovered that my neigbors wife was sitting in her fron lawn with 2 babies and her 3 dogs roaming around without a leas ( which in Texas there are leash laws) .I eventually got my sons dog .During the entire process not once did she intervene and continued to argue with..never went inside.Her husband sent a letter..3 pages aand in it he stated next time he would shoot the dog..as Houston PD gace him the authority to do so.My q is..is this legal, can his letter be used in a court of law
     
  20. visiongee

    visiongee Banned

    Here are my tips for a healthy house hold with game dogs
    Socialize the dogs at an early stage
    Give the dogs their own room to relax in
    Play with them individually all dogs can be a little jealous and can easily get frustrated with the other.
    When the dogs have exercised and have been fed with close supervision let them play for a little while
    Dont encourage any kind of escalating horseplay and let them know that fighting will not be tolerated in your yard.
    In time they come to understand that their is a place and a time for everything.
    Last and just in case all APBT owners should have a breaking stick and know how to use one.
    I have two APBT and Two English Bull terriers both pairs are as game as they come but actually get along and play pretty
    good I just never let them play all together unsupervised. Also when walking in public its ok to warn people with lose dogs
    that if their dog attacks your leashed dog they are both going to be in serious trouble. I would never let my dogs maul a dog
    but I will let him make his point clear. I notice the problems I have had is more toward irresponsible owners than the dogs themselves.
     

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