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Your opinions on BANDOGS?

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by KingOfHearts, Sep 3, 2020.

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Bandogs?

  1. The real deal!

    6 vote(s)
    37.5%
  2. Absolute trash!

    4 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Don't know, don't care!

    6 vote(s)
    37.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    I couldn't imagine handling anything like these dogs. Shit 47lb bulldog will give you a work out.
     
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  2. BkAllDay

    BkAllDay Pup

    Benny but these mastiff breeds dont have the gameness //// intensity //// drive that apbt bulldogs tend to have. Some folks may feel bulldogs are harder to handle.
     
  3. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Dude, a lot of these dogs weigh what grown men weigh. Handling a 50lb gamedog is not the same as Handling a 120+ dog of any breed. You can fight back on a 50lb dog for a little bit. You have no chance unarmed against one of these man stoppers. They will bringing you to the ground fast. I would take my chances with an APBT before I would any of them huge ass dogs. Sure, both can kill you but that large dog is going to totally overpower you way faster and more efficiently than any 50lb would.

    I've always wanted a large breed guard dog like a Presa or a Caucasian Shepard but they are far more dog than I want to handle. I'll stick with my 40lbers and leave the protection work to Ruger. I'd imagine the pile of dung these types of dogs leave is simular to that of a horse. Lol.
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Most of the Mastiff breeds are not all that active in adult hood so handling them is normally not an issue. Few have a lot of prey drive much past puppy hood. Of all the ones I had there was only one that had actual drive into adult hood and she failed her conformation test because her ears did not land a certain way and her upper lip did not make the right shape.

    But like I was describing before the problem is when the cross is made and that defensive driven dog gets a shot of prey, the willingness to go get something and stop it from moving, in the wrong hands....bad things simply happen.

    I'm all for dogs that do what they were bred to do but these crossed dogs/Bandogs are not for just anyone. In the right hands they can be impressive, both ins size and ability, as well as perform athletically. Like bulldogs they do not always land in the right hands. That is unfortunate.

    S
     
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  5. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Hey slim where do u think the best chances of getting a good fila would be .. An import or do u think the usa would have them still
     
  6. Lad you are a peadophile.now fck of you rat tick.
     
  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have been out of the community for a number of years as I fell out of the good graces of the commercial breeders and the ones that simply liked to look at dogs without actually looking at dogs. I did not fit into the click, and trust me when I say the conformation community embraces the click as they may have actually invented the 'click'.

    I'm weary of imports. As until I got a puppy recently in 35 years I have never had a dog I did not go pick out myself and pay for at the time of the purchase. I like to see what I am getting before I get it (and that has cost me tons of times but it is a character flaw, LOL)

    There are good dogs here in the US but I would have to ask around as the working aspect of the dogs have not been maintained.

    I will call a friend of mine today or tomorrow. He rabbit hunts with the guy that owned what is believed to be the second Fila to come to the US and here in the states he is the most knowledgeable Fila guy going.

    We started off tight but I fell out of his good graces with my approach of 'if I stop by with the food scoop you will perform a task' with my dogs. I celebrated a Fila who actually caught a wild pig in a hog dog rodeo and he frowned upon her because her upper lip was split vs. rounded which indicated a mastiff influx some years back. We were in a circle of his peers and I said my dog caught a pig and at best, your dog might have caught a cramp and our relationship soon soured. LOL

    But he is far more knowledgeable than me and I can take advantage of that. I will follow up.


    S
     
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  8. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    old battle dogs were nothing more than working bulldogs and mastiffs, they werent magic, they just had better genetics due to being bred for combat.
    its like comparing an ufc athlete to a normal dude
     
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  9. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    with right breeding you can still get some superb dogs, albeit, not much of a pet material
     
  10. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

  11. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    But the ufc fighter isn't really genetically different at all from a normal person. He just works at a craft the other doesn't. I totally get what your saying in the post just think that's a bad analogy to explain it.
     
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  12. Suppose a lot of fighters will have it in there blood.
    but people dont breed the way we bred hundreds of years ago.we wair paird up years ago for warroir purpuses.now days we breed to who we want!
    Big diffrence.and thats why we produce less fighters each generation.
    eugenigs have been used in humans and dogs for millions of years.the 20 and 21 century are the centurys the world went gay.and full of plastic.
     
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  13. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    that depends a lot honestly, many ufc fighters are freaks of nature. like nnganou, ubereem, rakić, rendelman, mirko cro cop, etc.
    and even the ones who arent are roided out to their gills.
     
  14. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    aint no way that a 120+ kg guy can have a six pack and that kind of endurance without juicing
     
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  15. Im really not sure on that one mate.some people are just fckn naturely huge in build...i do get what your saying though.
     
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  16. BkAllDay

    BkAllDay Pup

    Green as hell. You obviously dont know your history
     
  17. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    i know, i am talking more about muscle definition, its really hard to bulk up without gaining some fat on the way, but some fighters look shredded like bodybuilders. huge MFs with low percentage of fat. UFC has anti juicing rules because of USADA, But in the days of vale tudo and pride, it was wild west and everyone was on everything.
    go back to touching kids
     
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  18. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    anyways, back on topic, bandogs with more pitbull influece (45-50 kg) range, seem better to me than huge dogs that resemble mastiffs, there seems to be a big difference between athleticism and build in two types
     
  19. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

  20. BkAllDay

    BkAllDay Pup

    people in francis own camp outed him for cheating. You can see pics of him before he came to the USA. he obviously used PEDS dozens of times. He also has no stamina or gameness. Hes a one sided gatekeeper, crappy version of anthony johnson.
    Overeem is a confirmed PED cheat. The other 3 are laughable for you to say "freaks of nature"

    Francis just looks good against low tier or over the hill fighters. He got absolutely schooled by stipe twice and choked against derrick lewis, the guy DC destroyed and finished early.

    If you wanna talk about freaks of nature then talk about life long naturally dominant clean combat athletes like Daniel cormier. At the top level in combat wrestling (probably the hardest sport on earth) since he was a little kid. Countless world championships and pedigree. He transitioned late to mma in his 30s after olympics and excelled quickly against much larger clearly roided fighters. He became the first double defending champion at heavyweight. Won championships at LHW too going down there because his friend was heavyweight champ. Hes one of the most tested combat athlete if not the most. Hes clean and id say 99% of combat athletes are not clean. Excelling in such a brutal sport even in his 40s.

    Stipe miocic, daniel cormier, henry cejudo, justin gaethje, Khabib nurmagomedov are superior examples

    You as a homosexual like soze and wicked13 focus on the genetic genes looks or build and you will praise a man or dog based on appearance. But its really about performance. Thats what its all about. And the correct training goes a long way
     

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