Multiple sires

Actually, not a one A-hole can dual sire dogs, a litter can be dual sired but a dog cannot be. That's understood if you took it like that, these days I don't even get pissed any more when people don't understand me. As silly as it may sound I'm striving for perfection as a breeder. To be frank I think all breeders strive for this. Whether or not I use traditonal methods or not the same results cab be acheived. Around here we don't take to certain fads of breeding, We stick the good ones to good ones and hope the bitch is pregnant. But the key word of that last statement some people might over look is "good". You don' start a breeding program with a pretty boy and a pretty girl. We like to use educated animals.

 

mac do your thing you feed them dogs. YES because you can that is the only answer you should have given. the whole game is a gamble hell if you feel like triple studing the bitch knock yourself out. you feed them.

 

it's not that uncommon.

 

People often do this when a bitch is getting up in age and they want one last breeding off her but cannot choose which male to breed her to.

 

i don't see anything wrong with experimenting. seems to me that it could be a good idea. instead of breeding the bitch 2 different times for 2 different litters, just making it one litter. i don't see anything wrong with anyone doing what they want w/ the dogs that they are feeding. though i don't know that i'd breed the bitch back to back on the same day. sounds like alot of stress on her. interesting though.

 

There is by no means any thing wrong with this technique... Just the way I interpreted the OP, had me thinking " WTF"...and all the reasons for why people would do it wasn't neccesary..they were all good reasons.. I just wanted to get a better understanding of why he wanted to do it..Not,". Why would someone do something like that?"....
By the way, is it common for Vets to DNA profile because I don't register my dogs...

 

There are benefits to it for those who don't know why it's done I posted some info below .. The DNA testing is done to determine which pups came from which sire used in the breeding . If your dual breeding and registering the litter with one of the registries both sires and dam must have DNA profiles on record ....


Why breed to more than one sire? The biggest reason is to gain knowledge of what each sire is capable of producing with a particular dam/bloodline without having to wait for separate heats and possibly taking more than a year to find out. This method allows us to evaluate the different combinations at the same time, assuming there are puppies by all sires. A multi-sire litter may enable a more successful advance of development in a breeding program without having to breed two or more separate litters. Besides obtaining a nice selection of puppies to choose from with less time spent it also helps maintain genetic diversity. Another reason for multi-sired litters is to help ensure that there will be puppies. In addition to being disappointing a missed breeding also means having to wait nearly a years time before being able to try to breed the female again.

 

He already has the DNA on the sirs so why would he do it that way? Aside from the producing part. it would be good if your bitch was old and you didn't want her to have many litters.

Vic

 

Guess i should have read all the post before I posted..... my bad folks.

 

It has been done and for good reason for some.. Sire one would not be able to be bred to anymore, the other you really want more off of. Both you want bred to this one female so you breed them both. On alternating days with alternating sires this produced a litter of 9 split 6/3. Thats where it can backfire on you. That 3 from sire #2 only gave 1 worth feeding. The group of 6 from sire #1 gave 4. By breeding one sire at a time u have a larger pool to swim in. All still a gamble..

This in my opinion is done to cut down on time and wear and tear on the female, two breedings cut down to one. You get a chance to see how and what each can produce to a limit but still able to see.. You get an idea of which one to go back to with consideration of how that female is bred in relation to what was produced from each.

Either way though not so bad odds came from this litter....

Just my 1 cent on the subject

 

The guy I got my dog from does it to all of his dogs because someone tried to claim they either had a dog down from one of his or something along those lines. So now he DNA's all of his dogs to stop any bs.

 

What would the Peds. Say? lol

 

Since 2008 any feedback on that?
Did anyone tried? Did it work (like for example half litter from one stud and half litter from another one)? How did you proceed to get sure of the results?

Thanks for the feedback

 

i've read the UKC(?) think it was them? will dna profile separate pups to determine sires from a single litter sired by 2 dogs, and register each pup accordingly, but i don't have UKC dogs, nor have i tried.

but if you had one breeding you figured out of a bitch left, and had two males you wanted to breed her too, it could be a good idea,

but i figure the point to breeding one male is to increase your chances of good offspring in numbers from him and the bitch, not throwing dog #3 in the mix, slimming chances or potential good dogs out of a bigger litter of dog 1 and 2?

 

I personally don't see where it is a bad ideal in some cases,but seems like alot of expenses to dna all the dogs and pups.Plus you are going to have both studs on the same yard or close by.I think that all these dogs need to be blood typed or dna.The walking horse world had all the problems with paper hanging and lying about what stock was from what.In 1993 they went to blood typing the horse and put a stop to the paper hanging,not all not untill they started dna did they really put a stop to all of it.

 

Anone know how much it costs to DNA profile your dogs?

 

The ADBA charges $54 dollars per dog.

 

Ouch. So with multiple sires, it would be $54x number of pups! Yikes!!

 

Yeah, if you want to register the pups properly and see that the pups go with proper ped....it's expensive! Although aren't there "litter discounts" if you do several at once?

Dreamer