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What the fuck is this world coming too?????

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Saiyagin, May 24, 2016.

  1. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    U can say what ever u want.I can see want , but I can see what's most impotant in America.
     
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  2. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Wrong, cnn is also not a very credible source .. It was on the right of freedom of religion , meaning they did not have to be catholic or Methodist....
     
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  3. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Stats show what's up here !
     
  4. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    Wrong how?this is known history from many sources lol
     
  5. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
    —John Adams

    He must have lied lol
     
  6. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    This from Thomas Jefferson in an April 11, 1823, letter to John Adams:





    The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. ... But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding....
     
  7. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    [Qdon'E="mrpickles, post: 747748, member: 36344"]This from Thomas Jefferson in an April 11, 1823, letter to John Adams:


    I don't care ! We can see the stats.All red is saying is if u want to be reliable quote from a site ending in org or edu..Now I don't give 2 shits bout what was said over a 100 yrs ago..Stats...speak truth.


    The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. ... But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding....[/QUOTE]
    I don
     
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  8. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    The Declaration has many references to God throughout the document. The most famous one is that men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.

    “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” Here are more references to God found in the document:
    Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God”
    Appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World”
    With a firm Reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence”
    The body of the Constitution makes no reference to God. The Constitution honors the Christian Sabbath. The President was given 10 days to sign a bill into law. The counting of the 10 days does not include the Sabbath. This is found in Article 1, Section 7, and Clause 2 which in part follows:

    “If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law,”

    When the Constitution was completed on September 17, 1787, it was signed by the delegates then to be ratified by the states. The delegates signed the Constitution in the “Year of our Lord.” This is a direct reference to Christianity. This is found in Article 7 which in part follows:

    “Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names, GO WASHINGTON–Presidt. and deputy from Virginia”

    The Paris Peace Treaty was the document which formally ended the Revolution and granted the United States independence from Great Britain. In a real sense, the United States formally became a nation on September 3, 1783.

    When the United States became a nation, it was done in the “name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.” The preamble to this Treat states it is based upon the “Holy and undivided Trinity.” The concept of the holy Trinity is unique to Christianity. This statement means the United States was founded on the Christian faith. The complete Preamble follows:

    “In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity”

    The Treaty then ends just like the Constitution with a statement it is being signed in the “Year of our Lord.” The witnesses representing the United States were John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay and D. Hartley. The section in part follows:
    “In witness whereof we the undersigned, their ministers plenipotentiary, have in their name and in virtue of our full powers, signed with our hands the present definitive treaty and caused the seals of our arms to be affixed thereto.Done at Paris, this third day of September in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-three”

    D. HARTLEY
    JOHN ADAMS
    B. FRANKLIN
    JOHN JAY
     
  9. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    What do these guy's know they were only there when this country was started lmao
     
  10. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Check & Mate.....
     
  11. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    The facts of our history are easy enough to verify. Anybody who ignorantly insists that our nation is founded on Christian ideals need only look at the four most important documents from our early history — the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Federalist Papers and the Constitution — to disprove that ridiculous religious bias. All four documents unambiguously prove our secular origins.
     
  12. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Didd you not read what I just posted, that came from these papers you mention... Sorry you cant see the light of truth
     
  13. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    Declaration of Independence (1776)

    The most important assertion in this document is that “to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

    Note that the power of government is derived not from any god but from the people. No appeal is made in this document to a god for authority of any kind. In no case are any powers given to religion in the affairs of man.

    Remember, too, that this document was not written to form or found a government but was stating intent in a way that was meant to appeal to an audience with European sensibilities. Only four times is there any reference at all to higher powers — “Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,” “Supreme Judge of the world,” “their Creator,” and “divine Providence” — and in all four cases the references to a higher power appeal to the idea of inherent human dignity, never implying a role for a god in government.
     
  14. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    Check and mate lol
     
  15. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    So, the higher power & supreme judge & Creator of the world mean that ol king over yonder huh.. Seems legit, or do it mean ol Martha seeing as how she was the one holding ol GW willy at night... SMDH...
     
  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    [QUO"mrpickles, post: 747755, member: 36344"]Declaration of Independence (1776)

    The most important assertion in this document is that “to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

    Note that the power of government is derived not from any god but from the people. No appeal is made in this document to a god for authority of any kind. In no case are any powers given to religion in the affairs of man.

    Remember, too, that this document was not written to form or found a government but was stating intent in a way that was meant to appeal to an audience with European sensibilities. Only four times is there any reference at all to higher powers — “Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,” “Supreme Judge of the world,” “their Creator,” and “divine Providence” — and in all four cases the references to a higher power appeal to the idea of inherent human dignity, never implying a role for a god in government.[/QUOTE]
    You dont understand what I'm saying, I know what the Dec says but we are the biggest Christian Nation on thr planet.
     
  17. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    I van explain it to ya but can't understand it for ya lol
     
  18. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    You dont understand what I'm saying, I know what the Dec says but we are the biggest Christian Nation on thr planet.[/QUOTE]
    That is true
     
  19. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    It doesn't matter what your saying lol..it still doesn't change the fact that we the christians of the USA are a majority .Meaning this country is run on christian values.Check and Mate !
     
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  20. mrpickles

    mrpickles Pup

    Did I argue that point?think what you want but my original assertion is correct...check and mate duh
     

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