Vise grip's dogs

so what are the best crosses for that line...

 

I dont know I never had the chance to try they both went to the happy hunting ground. and I never got any more I got them for next to nothing and thats really the only reason I got them. But I would never overlook them. But I thought about throwing a old boyles bitch I had to one for a hot min. That may have done it but Ill never know. J

 

The ones that I've seen were crossed with West Penn's Razor(Butkus).

 

I like many others here have spoken to Jack in the past. He was honest to confirm some of his history and admit to his dogs weak points. I will not mention details out of respect for "private conversations". He did get a bit upset when i told him that if i got a dog from him i would need to see his yard before selling it back...lmao. He got upset and hung up. I called back, he asked if i called back to 'cuss him out, i stated that not being my style, and eventually ended the conversation with him saying that I reminded me of a younger him.:eek: Take it how you want it. Since Psychology is a hobby of mine, i took as a way of me liking/trusting/believing in him (since how can I not trust myself). Needless to say, my feelings toward him were not changed by that remark. I DO NOT appreciate the desrespect he has shown toward the Patricks in this phase of their lives.

Also, Jack is not using "Vise Grip" ever since he received an order to "cease and desist" from Vise Grip, the tool company. He has marketed himself and dogs as "Poncho dogs".

I have heard from various sources that his dogs cross well with Mayday dogs.

 

I´m doing that soon http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=54659

 

Too bad noone has anything good to say about him. I really like some of his dogs. They are a lil to squaty for my taste but, I like em.

 

whats his best stud dog right now

i like his stuff cos its off of patrick's dogs.

 

This is his best stud..Silverback.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=57819

 

I like his dogs but aren't they kinda pricey
Does

 

See dogs like that make me change my mind.... Im goin to have to do my home work cuz I really like that dog and the others I have seen.

 

what u guys think ofthese 2 breedings

redboy-jeep-sorrel/ vise grip's silverback bred bitch , bred to gr ch macho buck 5xw Rom..

And a patrick- ch bronco/silverback female, bred to gr macho buck rom

i like the second one..




i like this a lil more then silverback

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=285893

 

Do you have the actual peds on those? Vengeance is a great little dog but I believe he is sterile.

 

nah i dont have pedigrees for it..

that dog is sterile.. .. , could have been nice.

 

i like his dogs much!

 

seems like u really do like his dogs.. since ur first post is on vise grip's dogs thread

 

Damn I want one..... or three!

 

I like the second one too.

 

Hello, I must say that Silverback is fantastic. But CAJack's has a website?​

 

well-versed on the treatment of babesia? i don't know about that though. he thinks there's a cure for it. there's not the symptoms may be repressed but the dog will always be a carrier.
i've been told that he had decent dogs and poor culling practices. believe what you want everyone has to make their own decisions on the matter. personally if he had the best dogs in the world i wouldn't buy one knowing that he doesn't put a dog down that has babesia. it's a terrible disease, that is contagious and cruel for a dog to have to live with. if the best dog i had contracted babesia i'd do the right thing by him and put him down. jmho

 

Ca Jack is the second 20 year Dogman that I have done business with, although my breed of choice is Ol'Southern Bulldog ("American Bulldog" by denied standards) but I truly love and adore the American Pit Bull Terrier. The knowledge he and Lem Miller have is second to none, I could care less what the rumors or opinions are about them or their dogs, but one thing is for certain, two things for sure.......They are successful Dogmen and have done a substantial amount for these two breed of dog (American Pit Bull and the Ol' Southern Bulldog), worked hard to preserve the gameness, and only failures will bash them or start some bullshit about them or their line of dogs. Do anyone know the circumstances in regards to the hunt his dog was on? NO!........... know why? because you wasn't there and to speak on shit you have no recollection of, makes you look like a loser. No one knows the sitiuation during that hunt, but the people who were there and if you don't know, do everyone a favor and keep your he say, she say and hate to yourself.


And the person who posted this:

"just a heads up and not to knock the guy.... thought u might wanna research him a little if u r considering his dogs. i dont know if its true or not but i've read a few questionable comments bout the guy. again not trying to bash anyone."

Comments like this is why you will always be ignorant, and you should not be allowed to own anything other than a Poodle............But then again, not even that, you would be the one sparking flames saying (in the "duhhhh voice) just a heads up and not to knock the guy.... thought u might wanna research him a little if u r considering his dogs, because I heard a Poodle beat his prize dog, i dont know if its true or not. again not trying to bash anyone." Believe half of what you hear, and half of what you see, and use this blog board for what it is.............."90% of it is bullshit, but it's entertaining, that's why I read it" Alonzo in Training Day



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