Traits passed onto offspring

I often hear hog dogs having certain styles when catching a hog. Some may hold the head (ears, nose, etc...) & some may hold on the legs (stiffle). Well my question is, if the sire or dam of the offspring were to have a particular way to catch a hog, could that possibly be passed on to the offspring? Is there certain ways you'd like a hog dog to hold (placement) on the hog, to assure it's safety from being injured? If so, could the dog be taught? Thx in advance.

 

I know this does not pertain to your question, but I was actually wondering about specific phyical characteristics and how that are passed on. For example if you have a confirmation correct game dog and you breed to another game dog that has a bad bite. (under bite) How likely is it that the pups would have messed up bite to?

 

Underbite isnt a big deal, some of the hardest biting dogs have underbite. As long as the dog still has its teeth lined up nicely, underbite aint much.

 

Thanks for the info, but would you take a bitch out of your breeding program if her only fault was her bite?

 

No. I wouldn't.

 

i wouldnt, because i dont breed for looks. you dont need to be pretty for performance.

 

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First off please never post pics online of your dogs hog hunting just another reason for the anti's to say look what these people do this should be banned!

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Secondly I hog hunt on our farm since we cut sod. When hogs ruin 30,000-50,000$ of sod in a night it’s a problem. <O:p</O:p

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I guess it could be passed although I didn't study genetics in college. I train catch dogs to go for the ears. I hunted with allot of people and have seen dogs catch in allot of different places. I prefer the ears as it inflicts less damage to the hog at the same time the hog can kill your dog allot faster so don’t forget your cut collar. <O:p</O:p

When I was a kid I had an Australian Shepard that used to catch the back legs this is the cowards way of catching and it inflicts to allot of unnecessary damage. I've seen dogs that catch on the snout and this is bad as they can shatter their canine teeth an get infected were you have to remove them this is expensive and requires a specialist. Other methods would include the jaw, neck, chest, ect.ect. but I prefer the ears the fight should be fair and see no reason to cause unnecessary damage. A dog that catches on the ears has some balls when you have a large hog 350 and up that is facing or charging. If he barks and eventually catches he is not a catch dog he is a cur.<O:p</O:p

If you are worried about something happening to your dog don't take him hog hunting you'll probably get him hurt or killed fast. <O:p</O:p

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As for training I don’t know if I should discuss it. My methods are not cruel but I'm sure allot of anti's surf these forums.

 

Well, as paranoia mentioned...catch dogs are normally trained to hit a certain safe area. I was always told you dont want the animal to actually fight the hog, that is not safe. You want it to catch the hog,and wear it out, get it down so you can finish....let a 500 lb. boar go toe-to-toe with one bulldog, and your fatality rates are going to be much higher I would assume!

But yes, certain styles do seem to be passed down from mother/father to their offspring. Alot of it does depend on how they were schooled, and what sort of hogs they met the first few times, but you will often times you will see pups that hunt in a similar fashion.

 

Let me clarify something (Florida Terminology)

Trail dog=Dog used to find hogs. This type of dog needs a good nose. Many types of dogs are used for this. I like Bulldog/Bird dog (pointer) mix very athletic and good nose. Allot of people use Hounds or Catahoula type dogs.<O:p</O:p

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Bay dog= Dog used to hold a hog by barking in its face and not touching the hog. If the hog tries to run the bay dog will nip it in the ass so the hog will turn around and the dog will commence barking. If the hog is bayed you can jump on it or try to leg it depending on the hog some will run when they see you or charge you. Many types of dog are used for this.

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Catch dog= A dog used to hold the hog by force so you can leg him and throw him in the dog box. Types of dogs I've seen Bulldogs (ranch dogs no papers just breed for their ability to hunt. Not English bulldogs) Pit Bulls, American Bulldogs, I've seen one rottie that would catch until his hips prevented him from running.<O:p</O:p

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A trail dog can also be a bay dog. <O:p</O:p

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So that would be a bay dog. Allot of hunters don’t use catch dogs only bay or trail dogs everybody does it differently.<O:p</O:p

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Exactly, and a cur won’t catch a hog that size thou a 250-300 boar can kill your dog just as fast as he will be more mobile, a descent size cutters and very powerful. Allot of the big badass hogs I’ve caught won’t squeal or grunt they just turn around and fight your dog so unless you have a bay/trail dog barking you won’t know where your catch dogs is very bad. Some people walk their catch dogs on a leash to the bay dogs in the woods and then let him go lessening the chances of the catch dog getting injured.

 

Paranoia & 14rock, thanks for the great info. I myself never been hog hunting, I don't think I've ever seen a wild boar in person, hey I live in Cali! LOL, It's just fascinating to me to see or hear about dogs working, doing what they're bred for.

 

My dogs are happiest right after they catch a hog and will do anything to get back at it.
When I was in college,I used to live about 3hrs from our property. SO some weekends I would go to the ranch and go hunting, but when we I went back to school the dogs would mope around the house depressed for about 2-3 days. Taking your dogs hunting and running thru the woods is like taking your kids to Disney World.