Southern Kennels

That about sums it up....

And they were never nanny dogs. May as well quit retyping that horse shit. From the very first crossing they were bred for war not to baby sit kids.

 

Shit is crazy !!
Right after they catch that W it’s time to babysit the kids lol
Mane wtf

 

Everyone knows I'm a buck fan because after going 3:17 against another gr ch barney fife stitched him up and let him teach Sunday school the next morning lol.

Damn Colby's nephew getting smoked in the early 1900s or Tudors wife's legs being scarred up from the dogs getting her.

We've talked about this exact thing in depth more than once. You also said it best "I've put a hurting on people touching me when I'm getting down can't be mad at the dog for reacting the same way". It's super romanticized and retarded to think that in a life or death battle an animal will get touched and be like "oh that's whistle dick I can't bite him he's human"

 

With all of the burden and hassle of these dogs only a dumbass would want them in there life. Myself included.

 

Lmfao!

 

Well close the thread agk won the internet

 

watch

 

Slim = Al Pacino: "Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in.”

 

If you fool with the dogs eventually you will get out and back in at least a couple times.

 

This is a fact. I'm currently stepping back into this cycle after a long time away... probably a stupid move, but my entire track record is exclusively stupid moves, so this is par for the course.

 

I also have to point out the hypocrisy of everyone wanting an American PIT Bull Terrier but having sooooo much to say about the pit aspect of the dogs they think they want lol.

I personally knew of a 1x who would snatch your ignorant ass up when she was ready to be let go. She'd bite the tops of your feet when you try to take her off the chain and she was excited.

Same dog couldn't be trusted on a chain around kids. Put her inside she'd lay at the foot of the walker a baby was tooling around the house in.

There was no issues with her nerves lol. She wasn't a vicious baby killer either. She was a bulldog and when she had her mind set on work she was punching her clock and wasn't clocking out even if you drug her away. If the screaming to be let go didn't work she used the only other tool she had. Her mouth.

 

I’ll also add a weak nerved dog is a dog who gets scared easily. That’s not very alpha if you ask me. I want a dog thats confident and not scared of children or it’s own

I know more than you when it comes to dogs. I could tell immediately on your first post about alpha dog that you don’t know much. You described a weak nerved dog that’s not clear headed. Not an alpha dog. An alpha dog is hardly bothered by anything until it’s actually something to be bothered about. Since an alpha dog is pure confidence and has bomb proof nerves. I do have tons of experience with working dogs. Mostly shepherds. GSDs to be exact. My dad is a retired k9 officer and trains ppds and sport dogs. So understanding traits, drives and genetics is something I do understand very well as I’ve learned from the best. As far as owning a real game dog, you are correct in saying I don’t have experience. I’ve only owned a pitbull type dog that had no pedigree. But my purpose of posting here is to find a “WELL BRED” APBT. The ones of old that earned the title nanny dog. These dogs were just as tenacious and were winning in the pit - yet, the dog men of that time also seemed to breed dogs to have strong nerves. That’s why when they would get worked up, they never had what’s called redirected aggression. Which is actually what you meant when you said alpha dog. You can have a grand champion that has strong nerves and is loving and stable around all people - since it was selectively bred to also have strong nerves to go along with its drive. Some people don’t fully understand what they are doing when it comes to breeding dogs so they breed high drive dogs even if they don’t have strong nerves. This is how owners and kids get killed by their own dog. It’s bad breeding imo. But with that said, I understand why one would breed the dog if it’s going to live outside on a chain and only come off to fight or train. 99% of people don’t want a nerve bag dog that’s completely unstable, unloyal, and a threat to not only others but more importantly a threat to themselves. And if you know much about dog genetics look at it this way - which dog do you think will be more game? The dog with strong nerves ( not bothered or scared of anything clear headed ) or the dog with weak nerves? (Bothered, scared, cloudy mind unstable) When a dog gets exhausted in the pit and is hurt and stressed to the max the dog with stronger nerves will be less affected by the stress than the dog with weak nerves. That’s simple genetics. I know there’s great breeders out there, I do believe Chico is one of them. But it would be cool to find a cheaper option if possible. Chicos dog Atos was hit by a Grenade in ukrain. You know what that dog is now? He’s a service animal. That’s what you call a confident strong nerved dog. He was Grenaded by humans, yet he is still loving and friendly towards humans. And he is also a champion or grand champion dog. A weak nerved dog like you described would never be the same after an experience like that. They would probably freak out every time they saw a stranger from that day forward. Do more research on genetics and breed better dogs. You can still have a game winning dog but one that is a better representation of the breed. Be responsible with the freedom you have and do better. Pitbulls shouldn’t be agressive nerve bags. They should be amazing trustworthy awesome animals that will whoop any animal on 4 legs

 

I’ll also add this - I know you’ll reply with something along the lines of I don’t have experience with game dogs, which you are correct but use Chicos bloodline as an example. These are champions, grand champions, POE, ROM, 1xw, 2xw etc dogs. And yet all of them are being sold as pets to families that have children and none of them are killing kids or attacking their owners. This is my point. You CAN have winning, well bred, strong nerved, confident, clear headed APBTs. Or you can have lower confident, nerve bag, cloudy headed, unstable APBTs. But the dogs who are better bred are not only better animals as pets but are also better animals in the pit. His dogs are winning around the world and I know most people don’t like him because he sells dogs for alot. But the man understands genetics and knows that the more confident, stable, stronger nerved dogs are far more game than a weak nerved psycho dog and his dogs make better pets. That’s what sets apart good, responsible, breeders and bad ones. This is why I think I may go with Chico even though it’s super expensive. To get his bloodline I think is very rare in this arena as far as temperament goes. Just like there’s more than one way to skin a cat, there’s more than one way to breed a game dog. And I can tell Chico studied and understands genetics. That’s why he can have a champion/grand champion dog that is also a service animal. I wish more breeders would study and learn about these things. Maybe the APBT wouldn’t always be at risk of BSL. Thank you all for your advice. I really do appreciate it and I actually really enjoyed everyone’s advice and insight

 

Where does the " nanny dog " concept come from?

After reading some of your posts. It's Hardly likely that any member of the forum will sell you a dog. I seen where you value slims opinion however you seem to neglect his opinion on this whole " nanny dog " concept lol

 

Then why were they called nanny dogs? You can google it. I’m just wondering where you are coming from. I agree they were bred for war. But they were absolutely called nanny dogs. It can be googled

 

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