Gameness

The willingness to go on no matter the odds. I know some say they will quict to heat maybe couple other things that can be excused but can we get a more solid statment.I read a oldtimer say length of time should be 2 hours others say thats wrong.Also are there any pics of real gamers not fastlaners even if they were 1 time out but showed high level of GAMENESS

 

Most matches now days don't go 2 hrs .Back in the day a lot of them went long and it was basically 2 game plugs goin at it..Dibo came along and changed all that .He added talent and finish to the game .Thing about those matches that go that long it makes it harder to save your dog.

 

Best matches with the most action go around the hour mark.jmo

 

Yes Bama but just trying to stay away from the action jackson guys i know their good but what would you say about their gameness, Im almost sure Europe has some 3 and 4 hour shows probably some soft mouth dummmies but more game for sure.

 

Beauty of it lies in the eye of the beholder.

 

Yeah somthing about going the distance. dont get me wrong i love action. but going the distance keeping just out of reach coming from the bottom pace it pace it gothcha where where i want ya. I love those Mohammed Ali fights 8 rounds 14 rounds i aint going nowhere and when im done you aint going to be the same

 

'Gameness' is being willing to die for the cause.

 

Yes thank you Jolene but what is excusable(cannot be judged on)if the animal quits i know heat is one and there are a few others. When looking for it should only be done by someone who know what to look for like body language you dont need to take the dog to deaths door. I know you dont mean that but im looking for somone who knows for sure signs. I read an old article said he was game cause thats how he went out and i thought who would let a gamedog go that far what an idiot but then i read another that said your only checking a certain depth cause the next time out the dog says once is enough so what do you do hes game hes good.

 

Well realistically a dog is as game as his last scratch. And when they stop they ain't game no more. As far as excuses about why a dog quit, there isn't an excuse when another man's dog quits, most just have them when there dog quits! Imo as long as a dog wants to go and goes across to do it it's game. And imo gamedogs don't stop cuz it's hot outside

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A dog will show you when it doesn't want to be there anymore,their eyes and body movement. JM2C

 

That's right Cajun I have seen A dog with his whole front end gone well over two hrs. released his chin hit the carpet and try and push him self forwad with just his back legs! I have seen two tinny gyps like 12 to 14 lbs.. A hot summer night go tit for tat over 3 hrs. both give out and both go'n ito shock, they would have layed there and died in holt! That is pretty damn game! The handlers picked them up and I think both survived,, I was busy but I heard so my people wanted to buy either one! Saw an old dog called ""Carpet Back" he won all three from the bottom them "great' dogs just got hot and tired and gave up trying to kill him!! I guess what I'm trying to say that breeding "Game Enough To Win' can bite you in the ass!

 

Slim that was a great post , I don't think it could be said any better..Many of times 2 , 3 or 4 dogmen looked at the same dog and all had different opinions.Good post.

 

^^^^ Totally I agree II'm not as good A writer as you! LOL But you are correct A dog might all day for one person and head to the bleachers with somebody else! To me the WORST is one that QUITS on top! Has the other whipped and wants to sit next to the owner and watch the next one!! I saw Jim S. take A dog that stood the line at under 30 min. He got that dog and matched him back into the original owner and the dog never looked back won it and another!! I have the opinion it just dosnt take A good dog but conditioner and handler,it's all tied together!

 

Yes sir the man handling the dog has a lot to do with it. Some know what it takes to get thAt water deep outta the well. That's where building a strong bond with a dog plays it's part in my mind. I seen one once that was raised by this fella and showed to be a deep deep game dog and finally won in 1:54, showed so good a fella gave him a nice chunk of change for that dog, next time out dog stood on all fours on.his first scratch looking at the guy who paid big money for him like you go over

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Guys Sports Illustrated wrote a article about a dog that would not quit even though he could not stand but tried to go across anyway i guess that means hes good till last scratch and that is "willingness" right there unbroken I agree. Also when you a gametest let me know if im wrong "do nothing that would give your dog the advantage" you want to see when odds are aganist him like reasonable body weight but not conditioned as this could give him the edge making it go on longer making more unnecssary(good spelling eh} dammage also he should have a bigger opponnent so he will be on the bottom. I know there are a few rules to to the person who knows what to look for and they can be close cause they know just by looking at the ped(if they seen it before that dogs from this line good for 30 min max) or no i think this one is deep just like his forestuds in any case i think you can be close if you know and even then its a gamble.

 

I call bullshit on anybody looking at a ped and saying if one is game from the ped.

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You can't judge a line of dogs gameness of what one from the line done.

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Ok so redboy dogs were known for high amount of game ones is that safe to say. I know each one will be at different levels some will be cold but overall.

 

Exactly. I've seen the same thing. I'm a firm believer in if a dog can't breathe, he's going to stop.