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Dog-Killer Mike Vick Signs with the Jets. Was HSUS His Reference?

Discussion in 'Dog Blogs' started by HumaneWatch, Mar 24, 2014.

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  1. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    .....how many fan's of the jet's would/do give a shit what m-vick do's in his spare-time..????..if it was anybody else that was caught they be still scratching the day's off the cell wall.....???????
     
  2. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    The Jets got fans..
     
  3. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    Here you go! In August of 2007, Vick entered a plea of guilty to a federal racketeering charge for promoting gambling across state lines for his ownership and sponsorship of the dog fighting concern known as "Bad Newz Kennels". He was sentenced to 23 months in prison of which he served 18 months before being released to finish his sentence under house arrest. No one disputes this. Vick served time for illegal gambling, which is more than Pete Rose ever did. All well and good.

    In November of 2008, Vick struck the plea bargain that is the basis of much of the controversy that surrounds the NFL quarterback. Commonwealth Prosecutor Gerald Poindexter made Vick an offer he would have been crazy to refuse. In return for a guilty plea on a state dog fighting charge, Vick would be given a three year suspended sentence and all other charges would be dropped. So without ever serving a day in prison on any of the state charges, Vick was allowed to step out of federal prison and back on to the gridiron, after having his "indefinite" suspension lifted by NFL.
     
  4. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    Define 'dogging' in the context you are using it.

    Don't pull the race card here. It was an AR issue. There's also the fact that he was a celebrity and basically someone kids looked up to. So, this was, back then, big newz that disappointed many.
     
  5. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    So you don't think race plays an issue in arrest and trial outcomes? Gtfoh!!! I read the plea agreement, he pled guilty to Federal Dogfighting charges and accepted up to 5 years with 3 years supervised to be done at completion of sentance. Now the charge for federal dogfighting, says Engaging in this interstate commerce to sponsor an animal in dogfighting event.

    Sincerely Yours, Cajun
     
  6. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    He was allowed to sign a plea and walk free on state charges of dogfighting

    Sincerely Yours, Cajun
     
  7. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member



    1. He went to prison on racketeering.

    Let's look at the law in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

    A charge of animal cruelty that does not result in the death of an animal is a Class 1 misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of up to twelve months. 51 dogs were seized from Michael Vick's compound in Smithfield, VA. A charge of animal cruelty where the animal dies , is a Class 6 felony, punishable by up to five years in prison. Michael Vick admitted after failing a polygraph that he had personally killed "6 or 7 dogs." Eyewitness testimony makes that number much higher, at least 11. We'll split the difference and call it 9 - the number of bodies recovered from Bad Newz Kennels. That's at LEAST 51 misdemeanor counts of animal cruelty, and 9 felonies. That is a potential 96 years jail time for the animal cruelty charges. He served not one day.

    Bottom line...Michael Vick did not serve one day in prison for dog fighting.
     
  8. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Here you go! LOL Still spreading false info. >> "Actually, he didn't go to prison for dog fighting. He went there for federal racketeering." << Show some plea agreements that said "racketeering", maybe you have different plea agreement papers. Personally, I could give 2 shits but you quoted the plea agreement and said it's false, where's yours? Nothing matters besides court papers, no he said she said.


    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/vick-plea-deal-070824.pdf
     
  9. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    LMAO, no court papers to prove what you say huh? Everything else is hear say.
     
  10. Dannyb

    Dannyb Big Dog

    That's what really me scratch my head??? When the hell did this happen?
     
  11. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    July 17, 2007 The Federal Case – Indictment
    Vick, now 27, and his three associates were indicted by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia and charged with violating federal law 18 U.S.C. § 371 Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture. The “interstate commerce” requirement gives the federal court jurisdiction over an activity otherwise regulated by the state. Interstate commerce in the Vick case included transporting fighting dogs across state lines and hosting dogfight participants from other states at Bad Newz Kennels. The charge is a felony with a maximum penalty of 5 years prison. A charge under the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) for animal fighting activities in violation of 7 USC § 2156 would have carried only a maximum penalty of one year per violation.

    August 27, 2007 The Federal Case – Guilty Pleas
    After his three co-conspirators pled guilty and began cooperating with authorities, Vick also pled guilty, admitting to funding the dogfighting operation and the associated gambling operation. He admitted to knowing about four dogs that his co-conspirators killed in 2002, and he admitted to agreeing to the hanging and drowning of 6-8 dogs who underperformed in 2007. Vick admitted he provided most of the operation and gambling monies, but he claimed he did not gamble by placing side bets or receiving proceeds from the purses.

    Under the sentencing guidelines for this crime, most first time offenders would have received no jail time. However, Chuck Rosenberg, the U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case, described the behavior of Vick, Peace and Phillips as “heinous, cruel and inhumane”, so he required that they accept a provision in the plea agreement that they “understated the severity of their conduct and that a sentence substantially above what would otherwise be called for by the guidelines would be appropriate.” Rosenberg recommended 12-18 months in prison rather than 0-6 months. Co-conspirator Tony Taylor was not included in this recommendation since he was the first to plead guilty and assist in the investigation. A sentencing hearing was scheduled for December 10, 2007.

    The NFL suspended Vick indefinitely without pay. After he is freed from prison, he could be reinstated.

    September 24, 2007 The State Case – Indictment
    Five months after the initial investigation, a Surry County grand jury brought two charges against Vick:

    one count of violating VA Code Ann. § 3.1-796.124, which makes it a Class 6 felony to promote dogfighting for amusement, sport, or financial gain or to possess, own, train, transport, or sell any dog intended for animal fighting
    one count of violating VA Code Ann. § 3.1-796.122(H), which makes it a Class 6 felony to engage in the torture, ill-treatment, beating, maiming, mutilation, or killing of animals.

    Peace, Phillips and Taylor were charged with promoting dogfighting . Taylor was also charged with three counts of unlawful torture and killing of dogs, and Peace was charged with one count. Each is a felony charge with a maximum 5 year prison term. The grand jury declined to bring eight possible additional counts of animal cruelty against the defendants.
     
  12. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    October 1, 2007 The Federal Case – Dogs Evaluated
    A team of animal behavior experts selected by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals analyzed the 49 seized dogs and then recommended whether they were suitable either to be adopted by families, trained as police dogs, placed in a sanctuary, or should be euthanized. Only one dog was recommended for euthanasia because of extreme aggression. The others were deemed suitable to go to sanctuaries or foster homes for socialization training.

    October 12, 2007 The Federal Case – Vick Lied about Killing Dogs
    Even after pleading guilty to the federal charges, Vick had not admitted to hands-on participation in the killing of poorly performing dogs. Investigators got conflicting statements from Vick’s co-conspirators. An FBI agent questioned Vick for five hours and gave him a polygraph test that indicated he was lying. Vick finally admitted to killing two dogs. According to Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gill, Vick told the polygrapher, "I carried a dog over to Quanis Phillips, who tied a rope around its neck. I dropped the dog."

    October 15, 2007 The Federal Case – Court Appoints Guardian for Dogs
    The U.S. District Court appointed Rebecca J. Huss, Professor of Law at Valparaiso University School of Law, as the guardian/special master to advise the Court regarding the final disposition of the remaining 48 seized dogs. Per her recommendation, the dogs were eventually dispersed to eight rescue organizations for adoption, rehabilitation or lifetime care in sanctuaries, where they have been neutered.

    Writer Jim Gorant described the assessment of the dogs:

    “What the [ASPCA animal behavior] team found was a mixed bag. Fewer than a dozen of the dogs were hardened fighters. Two had to be put down–one was excessively violent and the other was suffering from an irreparable injury. Then there was a group characterized as “pancake dogs”–animals so traumatized they flattened themselves on the ground and trembled when humans approached. Another group seemed to be dogs of relatively friendly normal temperament who simply had never been socialized.”

    November 19, 2007 The Federal Case – Vick Reports Early to Prison
    In a single day, Vick bought a $99,000 Mercedes; he cashed checks that totaled $24,900; he gave $44,000 to friends and relations; he paid a public relations firm $23,000; and then he reported to prison. In less than 3 months since the day he pled guilty to federal charges, Vick spent over $3 million.

    December 10, 2007 The Federal Case – Sentencing
    At the sentencing hearing, due to Vick’s deliberate false statements to federal investigators about his role in killing dogs, the prosecutor recommended Vick be sentenced at the upper end of the 12-18 month guideline range. Vick had also lied to investigators about testing positive for marijuana in September, a violation of the terms of his release on bail.

    A probation officer, who did not believe Vick had accepted responsibility, recommended an enhanced sentencing range of between 18 months and two years in prison.

    U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson said Vick also played a major role by "promoting, funding and facilitating this cruel and inhumane sporting activity".

    The judge added at least 5 months to the prosecutor’s recommended prison term, sentencing Michael Vick to 23 months in prison. Vick also received three years’ supervised probation during which he cannot buy, sell or own dogs. He was fined $5,000. Vick was also ordered to pay $928,073 as restitution for the 53 dogs seized from his property. He was required to enter a drug/alcohol treatment program and pay for the cost of treatment. Vick is scheduled to be released from federal prison July 20, 2009.

    Peace, Phillips and Taylor all pled guilty to the same charge earlier in the year. Peace was sentenced to 18 months prison and Phillips to 21 months prison.

    A few days later, Tony Taylor was sentenced. Since Taylor had been the first co-conspirator to plead guilty and had provided investigators with details of the dogfighting operation, the prosecutor had recommended that Taylor only serve probation. However, the judge said it wouldn’t be fair to give Taylor probation after sentencing his co-defendants to 18 months or more in prison. He told Taylor, "You were as much an abuser of animals as any other defendant in this case." The judge sentenced Taylor to 2 months in prison.

    The defendants cannot appeal the judge’s sentences.

    January 25, 2008 The Federal Case – Sentencing an Accessory
    Oscar Allen, who had sold a pit bull to Vick and had attended some of the fights, was sentenced to 3 years probation and a $500 fine. In October 2007 he had pled guilty to conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce and to aiding in illegal gambling and to sponsoring a dog in animal fighting. He had cooperated with the federal investigation.

    February 2, 2008 The Dogs
    A New York Times article followed up on the lives of several of the dogs who were transported to Best Friends Animal Society sanctuary. This excerpt describes a dog named Georgia:

    A quick survey of Georgia, a caramel-colored pit bull mix with cropped ears and soulful brown eyes, offers a road map to a difficult life. Her tongue juts from the left side of her mouth because her jaw, once broken, healed at an awkward angle. Her tail zigzags.

    Scars from puncture wounds on her face, legs and torso reveal that she was a fighter. Her misshapen, dangling teats show that she might have been such a successful, vicious competitor that she was forcibly bred, her new handlers suspect, again and again.

    But there is one haunting sign that Georgia might have endured the most abuse of any of the 47 surviving pit bulls seized last April from the property of the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in connection with an illegal dogfighting ring.

    Georgia has no teeth. All 42 of them were pried from her mouth, most likely to make certain she could not harm male dogs during forced breeding.

    Her caregivers here at the Best Friends Animal Society sanctuary, the new home for 22 of Mr. Vick’s former dogs, are less concerned with her physical wounds than her emotional ones. They wonder why she barks incessantly at her doghouse and what makes her roll her toys so obsessively that her nose is rubbed raw.


    Georgia, known to lick the face of anyone who comes near.


    Having those teeth extracted, Dr. McMillan and other vets said, must have been excruciating. Even with medication, dogs are in pain after losing one tooth, which may take more than an hour of digging, prying and leveling to pull.

    June 21, 2008 The Dogs
    NPR news reported that Leo, a former Bad Newz dog, is now working as a therapy dog for cancer patients.

    July 7, 2008
    Michael Vick filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, with assets around $16 million and liabilities over $20 million.

    November 25, 2008 The State Case – Guilty Pleas
    Each defendant pled guilty to one felony count of dogfighting. Cruelty to animals charges were dropped. The judge ordered a three-year suspended prison term and a $2,500 fine, which will also be suspended if they pay court costs of $380 and maintain good behavior for four years.

    According to an AP news report, “After the hearing, Surry County Commonwealth Attorney Gerald Poindexter approached Vick’s mother and hugged her, saying, ‘At least some of this is over.’"

    Upon resolving the state charges, Vick became eligible to complete his federal prison term in a halfway house, rather than remain in federal prison until his scheduled release date of July 20, 2009. He expects to be reinstated in the NFL.

    May 20, 2009
    After 18 months, Vick was released from federal prison in Leavenworth, Kansas to spend the final two months of his sentence confined to his luxury home in Virginia.

    July 20, 2009
    Vick’s electronic ankle monitor was removed and his federal incarceration ended.

    July 27, 2009
    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell reinstated Vick into the NFL with some conditions. Subsequently, Vick was hired to play football for the Philadelphia Eagles with a base salary of $1.6 million for the first season. Under a court mandated bankruptcy agreement that extends to 2015, much of Vick’s salary goes to pay off debts he accumulated prior to his incarceration.

    Vick agreed to speak to various community groups as part of an anti-dogfighting campaign organized by the Humane Society of the United States.

    July 2010
    Investigations continued into Vick’s alleged illegal gifts to friends and family prior to his incarceration and declaration of bankruptcy.

    August 2010
    Many of the dogs have been adopted into homes with children and other dogs. Some, like Mel, continue to deal with fear issues, whereas others work as therapy dogs in hospitals or children’s programs. Some will live out their lives at Best Friends Animal Society.

    More details of the dogs’ lives since their rescue are recounted in Jim Gorant’s book The Lost Dogs.

    September 2010
    The Philadelphia Eagles named Vick as the team’s starting quarterback and will be paying him $5.25 million this season.

    December 2010
    Vick stated that in the future he would like to have a dog again as a family pet.
     
  13. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Those are state charges, his federal prison term was for his involvement in a dogfighting operation.

    Sincerely Yours, Cajun
     
  14. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Beat that dead horse, beat it good.... lmfao
     
  15. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Maybe I need to burn another one and read a little slower, I still couldn't find the word "racketeering" in all those words. Let me give it another shot.
     
  16. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

     
  17. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    Holy hell, you guys aren't too bright. I thought some of you were smarter than this. I give up.
     
  18. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    lol With all due respect, maybe you should learn about the court system. Discovery does not show "what he went to jail for" and that's what I said you're wrong about. You said "Actually, he didn't go to prison for dog fighting. He went there for federal racketeering." and that is false! The discovery lays out all the informants, "so-called" evidence, etc. It has nothing to do with "what he went to prison for" like you claim, THAT IS THE PLEA AGREEMENT. That is ALL that show what he went to jail for. LOL You girls aren't too bright.
     
  19. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Also, he could have been accused of screwing the dogs in the butt and it would have been in the discovery also. But if it's not in the plea agreement, he didn't go to jail for it. And that's what is being debated. Plain and simple.
     
  20. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

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