Bettering the breed is BS

It will never happen. Now you may be going "yeh right stupid", so ill get deeper here. we all hear others say and some of us have said it,but really,the breed is already perfect,we just have to keep it that way.Thus we need to move away from the "betterment of the breed" BS to "preserving the breed. You cant fix what isn't broken,you can only break it. The whole reason for testing,to keep it fromj getting broke. By only breeding the good and culling the bad.

 

you def gotta point but not everyone has the perfect all around ability, mouth, game, smarts bulldog... some , not all... so some are striving for that best

 

Yeh but bettering the line is different than the breed,at least the way i see it.

 

You've got a good point... But what is the point of having the breed around if it isn't doing what it was bred for? To me, that's like 'show dogs'... Just a shell of a dog. A shadow of what the breed USED to be. Aka AmStaffs.

But that's just my way of thinking, I could be wrong!

 

I agree,if they arent being used for what they were intended for,then they just become am amstaffs

 

not striving for improvement simply reinforces the status quo.

there is always room for improvement in all facets of life

 

IMO there is no such thing as perfection. You can always be a little faster or stronger. I see where your going as far as the breed as a whole versus individual dogs but overall you wasnt want to strive for improvement. If not what is your purpose???

 

always room for improvement...have you been to a show lately? theres some dogs there winning that wouldnt scratch into a poodle

 

Agreed nothing is perfect.


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Well damn lol are you talking about adba shows?

 

lol true i hate when i see a good bulldog go to waste in the wrong hands..

 

What is there to improve? To me you,if you have a good dog or dogs and it/they would do what needs to be done,performs good,then what needs to be improved? It would be more about not screwing up whats good.
As far as shows,if you have a dog that does good at shows but wouldnt scatch into anything,well thats an amstaff.kick it to the side and get better stock

 

Like i said b4 u can always be stronger and faster. Just bc your dog is strong doesnt mean a stronger one can come along. Just bc ur dog is faster doesnt mean a faster one cant come along. Just bc ur dog is durable doesnt mean.... and the least just keeps going. You dont want to maintain and not screw it up. If you do that in a few years you line will be shit compared to the guy down the street improving with every breeding

 

i have not been to many shows but the ones i went to i seen some bulldogs place and even win, but like benthere said it depends on who is judging. i was lucky enough to have gary hamonds at one of the shows i went to

 

The breed is not perfect...
Betterment of the breed is said by people of all breeds and it could be regarding anything weather it be performance, production, health, etc. If the breed was perfect then there wouldnt be subpar dogs... there would be no undesirable traits to be passed down.

 

There will always be manbiters there will always be curs it genetics....plain and simple and judges will always have a favorite..I love me a buckskin or a rednose. just my 2 cents

 

the way i see it,if you have quality dogs and continue to have quality dogs and dont fuck it up,then you shouldnt have to improve anything,but if you have shit bred dogs that dont do anything,well i guess you do need to improve something or cull them and start over

 

ya the shows are a joke but i like being around folks that like the breed...good time. Just dont understand looking down on a dog cause he wants to do what he does