whitch one would u feed??

1.Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, wheat flour, rice bran, beet pulp, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, brewers dried yeast, potassium chloride, salt, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, choline chloride, vitamin E supplement, chondroitin sulfate, beta carotene, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-Carnitine, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganous sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, menadione dimethylpyrimidinol bisulfite (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Oatmeal, Potato Flour, Tomato Pomace, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Natural Flavor, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Whole Carrots, Ground Flaxseed, Alfalfa Meal, Herring Oil, Sea Salt, Dried Molasses, Malted Barley Flour, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Mixed Tocopherols, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Taurine, Green Lipped Mussel, Sea Cucumber, Chondroitin Sulfate, Yucca Shidigera Extract, Garlic, Spirulina, Lecithin, L-Carnitine, Dried Kelp, Parsley, Turmeric, Green Tea Extract, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Enterococcus Faecium, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum, Niacin, Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamin Hydrochloride, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Vitamin K Supplement, Biotin.


<!-- Guarantee Data Begins--><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width=250 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Crude Protein</TD><TD></TD><TD>26.0% min</TD></TR><TR><TD>Crude Fat </TD><TD></TD><TD>12.0% min</TD></TR><TR><TD>Crude Fiber </TD><TD></TD><TD>5.0% max</TD></TR><TR><TD>Moisture </TD><TD></TD><TD>10.0% max</TD></TR><TR><TD>Glucosamine* </TD><TD></TD><TD>400 mg/kg max</TD></TR><TR><TD>Chondroitin* </TD><TD></TD><TD>300 mg/kg min</TD></TR><TR><TD>Carnitine* </TD><TD></TD><TD>100 mg/kg min</TD></TR><TR><TD>Taurine* </TD><TD></TD><TD>0.1% min</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

sorry i know its long but whitch one would u choose to feed just from the ingredients and if u see any pros or cons from eather one

 

The second one is wellness, right? Good stuff, but I don't really like how they stopped baking their product.

How do you like this:Chicken Meal, Tapioca, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pumpkinseeds, Menhaden Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Natural Chicken Flavor, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid), Kelp, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Chicken Liver, Sea Salt, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Apples, Carrots, Peas, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Eggs, Freeze Dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Ground Chicken Bone, Butternut Squash, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove.

Notice that there are no fillers or rice

 

What Is The Food That You Listed Rod??

 

or this one:
www.timberwolforganics.com
Fresh Elk, Salmon Meal, Millet, Sweet Potatoes, Oats, Flaxseed, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Wild Salmon Oil, Atlantic Kelp, Alfalfa, Potassium Chloride, Currants, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Chicory Root, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract.

PROTEIN: 26%
FAT: 16%
FIBER: 3%
MOISTURE: 9%
Kcal/kg: 3,680
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.8%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4%
CALCIUM: 1.4%
PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1
VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
VITAMIN D: 1,200 IU/KG
VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG
COPPER: 16mg/KG


or this:
www.timberwolforganics.com
Fresh Bison Meat, Salmon Meal, Millet, Sweet Potatoes, Oats, Flaxseed, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Wild Salmon Oil, Atlantic Kelp, Alfalfa, Potassium Chloride, Currants, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Chicory Root, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract.
PROTEIN: 26%
FAT: 16%
FIBER: 3%
MOISTURE: 9%
Kcal/kg: 3,680
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.8%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4%
CALCIUM: 1.4%
PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1
VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
VITAMIN D: 1,200 IU/KG
VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG


or this:
California Natural


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<TABLE cellSpacing=4 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Moisture</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>10.0 %</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Protein</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>21.0 %</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Fat</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>11.0 %</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Fiber</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>4.0 %</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Calories</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>3474 Kcal/Kg</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top><NOBR>Calories</NOBR></TD><TD class=black-text style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt" vAlign=top align=right><NOBR>419 KCals/Cup</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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is that the one you posted the Natures Variety RAW??????

 

yep, its the natures variety..
here is the venison raw:

Venison, Lamb Liver, Lamb Hearts, Ground Lamb Bone, Apples, Carrots, Pupmkinseeds, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Chicken Eggs, Montmorillonite Clay, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Kelp, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Inulin, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove, Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid.

 

How Much Are These?

 

the california natural is $20.99 for a 20lb bag.

the timberwolf is $50 per bag for 33 lb...

 

I'd feed the second. Little bit better readout. Rice appears twice in the first 4 ingredents in the first. The second has kelp and some other things I like to see. Fewer chemicals.

 

I have only heard bad things about timberwolf. Totally bad service.

 

Screw timberwolf..too many grains, JMO. Go with nature's variety raw instinct. I pay $44 25.3lb bag, I only feed 2 1/2 cups a day to a 55lb 11 month old.

 

the sec ones is blue bufflow but its alot like wellness the thing i like about the sec one is that its allfree range animales and they seperate there veg from the meat so when they cook the meat the veggies dont get cooked too there in there on little kibbles, if that makes any sence