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Untold Stories of Forgotten Dogs

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by Vicki, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    This story is about a dog called Sunny Boys "Choko" and his parents. "Choko" was bred by JB from stock he acquired from Limey Kennels at the time. JB had a male out of "Spike" x "Tug" called "Chester", and bred him to a triple inbred "Nelis" bitch called "Flakey", also Limey stock. "Chester" was litter brother to Ch."Alligator", "Preudens", "Dillinger", "Miss Fox" and others. "Flakey" was litter sister to Springviews "Beauty". "Chester" was put on contract by JB into a dog called Ch."Blinky" (from the book Legacy Of Gameness from Rocca). In the book, a mistake is put on paper, as it says that "Chester" quit in that show? Nothing could be further from the truth, as the story was told by a man who never saw this show, but bought "Blinky" later. "Chester" was a troublemaker stirring up the whole yard of JB all of the time, and got a serious shoulder problem in the second week of the pre-keep. JB being pissed off a bit, said "well I'm going to bring him in on weight and fit or not, let's see if he can shoot some trouble in the box, instead of in my yard and so he did. 5 weeks later, he was in the box, off the chain, into the "Blinky" dog. "Chester" might and probably would have gotten away with it, if he was into a lesser dog, but "Blinky" was just too much for him. U+S Kennels recognising his quality and gameness offered $3000 for him after the loss, but he was not sold.

    O.K. the mother of Sunny Boys "Choko", the "Flakey" bitch. She was bred by Limey Kennels and sent to JB as a gift. She was bred as follows, Nelis x Tug produced Ch. "Dutch" she was bred back to "Nelis" to produce Ch. "Neilson"(ROM) "Popeye" (ROM) and "Nipper" and another bitch. "Nipper" was bred back to "Nelis" again to produce "Flakey" and Springviews "Beauty". "Beauty", who I seen once was a poor conformation bitch, undershot, and donkey back which is normal when bred that way. However, I have heard she showed extreme gameness in a show. "Flakey" was looked at and JB didn't feel she was a show bulldog, as she could not take the pressure he gave her on her shoulders (not mentally, but physically) He put her on the yard of Mr Bulldog and said "leave her as she is, because she is a gift to me and should not be sold". However, Mr Bulldog sneakily sold her after a while to some friends of B.Hall, which names I cannot recall right now. "Flakey" was agreed to be matched in Texas into...AND THIS WILL BE A SURPRISE...INTO COY AND THE MOTHER OF GR.CH. "BANJO" AND GR.CH. "BB RED". The ref was Bobby Smith (R.I.P.) who reported the show in his magazine the "Face Your Dogs". At the the end of the show which lasted 1.24 min, the mother of Gr. Ch. "Banjo" and "BB Red" quit and took the count on her time to scratch.... making "Flakey" the winner. Bobby Hall shouted that she was the baddest bitch is Texas. I know this news will be something of a stir up, as this is not known to many people. That today's Texas (finest) was beat by a European inbred brood bitch bred by Limey Kennels! O.K., her son Sunny Boys "Choko" won one show and was then lined up into another USA dog from Danny Burtons hands called "The Mechanic" who won 3 (shown by Burton) and was in the hands of the Pied Piper, who sent him overseas to be shown, if I'm not mistaken by the Bross Brothers. "Choko" was in the hands of the Sunny Boys who were very nice people to be around with, but not familiar about the conditioning aspect of the game (to put it out mildly). "Choko" was into a furious show with "The Mechanic" and both dogs went toe to toe. "Choko" finally was victorious in about 2.0 hours. "Choko" was run over by a tractor several months later and broke his hips and hind legs. After he had surgery and was healed up, they put him on contract one more time. At the time of the conditioning it was wintertime and "Choko" could not be walked nor run the mill due to his former accidental damage playing up. Therefore, they decided to swim him, which was a big mistake. As it was wintertime, he developed a mild case off pneumonia and he was YES as his daddy put in the box anyway. This time he lost in short order, which cannot be blamed on the dog really. The rumour goes that his mother "Flakey" ended up on Burtons yard! The moral of this story: there is many a good dog out there better than known Champion dogs. Even losers who are better than known Ch. dogs, that don't get the recognition they deserve and/or are forgotten, like "Flakey", "Chester" and their son "Choko", who were a Limey bred gene pool, only known to a handful of people.

    Meanbeam

    From the Bull Terrier Times Magazine
     
  2. oldtymer

    oldtymer Top Dog

    Enjoyed that thanks for posting ;)
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 24, 2010
  3. magnoilaotis

    magnoilaotis Top Dog

    Great post. Just goes to show good ones are where you find them.
     
  4. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    i just luv readn these post
     
  5. NMWAPBT

    NMWAPBT Top Dog

    thanx for the post
     
  6. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Hey thats my articel!!! nice to come across it so manny years later:). i gues it stil gives credid to the dogs i whanted it to give.....
     
  7. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    choko
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  8. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Flakey !!!?
     

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  9. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    i have seen that pic before and i am sure it said danny with ch stubby
     
  10. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    yes i know thats what it sais!!!!!! we also know Burton ended up with flakey afther the show, Non of these usa guys knew her pedegree only bobby hall did! and i dont have to tell you guys what his reputation was ,we never heard from her sins, that ch stubby bitch looks a hell of a lot like Flakey like a one eg twin sister so mutch so that it makes you wonder.......................
     
  11. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    i get you now, sure looks a lot like some of those alligator/eli dogs i remember.it makes you wonder
     
  12. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    she was shown under de name Joleen a bitch that used to be owned bij my frind and pardner Goldey, joleen was out of ch spike x Blondie who was out of ch spike x Kaan. joleen was put douwn for obvius rezens. frits jansen aka mr bulldog used her name twice one,s to send and sell Flakey to the usa (bobby Hall and frinds) and he sold her to M dann aka The pied piper. who in his puppy pedling comers alredy advertised her in the PBN from the late Joe graham together witch a dog called Pacman(dubble bred Tonka) to be in his yard ,funny thing at the time was Joleen was dead for about a year......... Flakey was shown under the name Joleen in the usa......
     
  13. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    the dog you showed pictured with danny burton would appear to have a dick.so i would say, that its definatley not flakey :-)
     
  14. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    maybe its a drag queen!!! ore hymoforite hhhahahhahah. look at my ? mark.
    fackt is he ended up with her.
    whether the dog is a male ore not, ore is flakey is not the issuew. its the story that counts.. ps mabye it is her ofspring i dont know...
     

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