TG Pup Bloodline

So basically what you are saying, all the Eli dogs are supposed to be called Boze dogs, cause the Eli bloodline is off Bullyson and Eli Jr.

 

I think it would be helpful for us new guys if this forum had a section on understanding bloodlines and such. The names change too much. Boudreaux changed to Eli and Chinaman is basically Eli right? Well that changed. Then comes Frisco. Now we have Frisco line but isn't he Chinaman also? It's all confusing to me on when the new line starts and finishes.

 

Learn to read a pedigree.Easiest way and those are not always the truth but its all we have ,unless we hear different from a trusted source.

 

This will be my last response on this thread, as I have hijacked from the OP enough. My apologies again to the OP!!!

I’m saying that ppl breeding weren’t breeding around Eli at the time. If you look at what’s available online about their production, Eli jr and Bullyson, you will see ppl bred away from the Eli jr/Bullyson stuff then back later. When they produced champions, it was not from an Eli bred female. Not winners. Registered chamiopins and Gr Ch. Even the champs down from them the dam was from another family.

Floyd himself held the Boze dog in the highest of esteem. Other ppl respected Floyd’s opinion.. Holds true today. The stuff I run is down from “Eli” to make it simple, but there really isn’t much Eli type blood in him at all. Floyd has more than a couple of subfamilies under his own family name. Ppl call them Eli dogs because it’s easy. What most ppl are calling an Eli dog is a Boudreaux dog. I’ve had a couple of old school bred dogs and have been schooled by my folks on how to properly read a ped. I’m not saying your way is incorrect. I’m saying if you look deeper, you might see it different. I have a littermate to this one.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=586087. What line would you call that?

 

It wouldn’t let me edit my post . Use the first four generations to see why the dog performs the way it does. Look to at least seven to see why the family of dogs has been bred the way it has been bred. Hope that makes a little sense. Ok ok. Now I’m done. Fr this time

 

Would that be a Blind Billy dog? (I am green to all this so If I make no sense you can tell me!)

 

Your good dude. Don't worry about high jacking. Your just educating people and me.

 

So Frisco is in my Ped 4x 4 gens back and 7x 5 gen back. 5 back Chinaman is in the ped 5x. So i know I basically have an Eli dog but would he be considered a Frisco dog also?

 

That’s who Floyd was breeding around originally. Back then, that might have been what they were called lol

 

Chinaman is an Eli/Carver cross. Very little Eli in him. I would say your dog was bred more on Frisco.

 

Thanks

 

This all could be explained if you broke down his questions, Eli is still a bloodline, chinaman is an eli/carver (most just say eli) dog but was so prolific he was key bred just like Eli, as with Frisco. In short you have a Frisco dog. Frisco was a chinaman dog. China man was a Eli dog. In the grand scheme you could say you had any of the 3 and wouldn't be a liar.

 

So like t.g. told you "basically" lol

 

Lol. No wonder that's what he told me.

 

c_note I'm not disagreeing with you about something. I wanted you to clarify me your opinion about the so called eli bred dogs and you did.
Outsiders, you can call it Boudreaux/Carver cross, from various strains.

PS: If we let aside the pedigree stats and papers, Chinaman was clearly an Eli phenotype dog. Conformation wise and performing wise.

 

I have traced my pup back to the Gas House line. I think if I am asked, I will say he's a Gas House Dog. Lol.

 

I wouldn't say either of you are wrong.Its what makes the breed so interesting.Different visions.

 

FIRST 3 GENERATIONS IS WHAT MAINLY MATTERS BIGGEST INFLUENCE ON YOUR DOG AFTER THAT YOU JUST LOOKING AT NAMES IN A PED BASICALLY

 

Thanks