Teens Arrested After Filming "pit bulls" killing A Cat.

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I did not read every post, but am going to say this anyways. Kids these days make me sick as well their parents. The media is so gungho (however you spell it) on putting their attention to dogs and the harm they cause, when you have kids out there that are worse than that of any breed! I used to like kids (who didn't) but now, it makes me sick to my stomach to know that a lot of certain ones are going to be taking care of all of us in the near future. It is very scary. This world and society as we all have known it to be is going downhill fater than a roller-coaster, and there seems to be no brakes. My parents were far from abusive, but buddy I tell you one thing, when I did something wrong, I knew it, and I also knew NEVER to do it again. I also knew the things that I NEVER wanted to do, just for plain simple reason, that they would be mad at me. When I was growing up, your biggest shame and biggest spanking actually wasn't that, it was the fact that your parents would be dissappointed in you, and that made you feel worse than any belt ever could. What happened to all that? Morals? Self-respect, respect for your elders? My Lord, it has disappeared from the face of the earth anymore.

As far as those kids go....they deserve a lot more than what they are getting.
Why on earth would someone want to sit and watch this is beyond me.
Just falls into place with our downhill society.

America, the place where your rights are taken away, and half live by the devil!

 

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That is exactly the problem. The last part of your post. When people live for themselves and not for the love of others and searve money, lust, greed and power they can not serve God or any sort of love other than the love for those mentioned elements. A corrupt person will do corrupt things with all they have and that is what they have to offer society.Concepts of what is good is reflected off of how it feels at the time not how it is or feels to someone else. Look at the TV what do they have to base it off. The Baby sitter most use these days.

 

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Y'all are very right!!

And speaking of TV, look what they put on it these days!! Some of the stuff I heard said on the TV about makes me fall off the bed! Every time something comes out I turn to my husband & ask "Did they just say xxxx??!" b/c I can't believe they said that on TV! I think the only words I haven't heard on TV recent years were the f-word & the c-word, & I'll bet they're on their way.

And the sex - back when I was a kid that was classed as soft porn & only on pay-per-view! No wonder kids nowadays are scrogging in grade school!!

Awful.

But it all comes back to the parent in the end b/c no matter what they put on TV, the TV has a switch. In fact, there is nothing saying a family w/ kids has to have to have a TV at all. I know of one Christian family that has done away w/ the TV & instead have what they call a "monitor." It can play DVDs & only receives certain channels. They did this to protect their kids & house hold as a whole from the stuff that is flooding into our houses via TV.

I'll bet the devil laughs his head off every time a kid turns on a TV set & a parent is gone or the parent doesn't care. It's almost like what is on TV today is a direct link from the devil's mind right into your living room. Murder, torture, rape, theft, lying & so on. And we wonder where our kids get it.

More parental involvment on one hand & a good study switch in the other would do wonders. And family church attendance wouldn't hurt either.

OK, I'm getting off my soap box now ... sorry for the rant, but I just had to get that out ...

 

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I know it really is a shame! This is also why I do not watch TV except for black and white films. The loyalty, respect and morals rarely exsist anymore, but i do find comfort in seeing it in certain programs from a while back. Is nice to sit a think how it must have back then, I only wish I could have lived it.

 

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Well just live to an ethical code and grow upon it each day. Try to pass it on to every one you meet.

 

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I grew up with four brothers and we had TV, but who the hell had time for TV between the softball, soccer, vollyball, track, school......my girls love to watch TV, with what little time they have for it. What is wrong with keepin your kids busy.....I'll tell you whats wrong - if your kids are busy so are you, I am a professional and a full time single MOM.....it is a job you signed up for the day you conceived. I crack up when the guys that work for me bitch about takin a kid here or there because their wives have conflicts....I feel like sayin, yo bud you are sitting here talkin to me over a cup of coffee, I bet your wife doesn't even get to go to the bathroom by herself, or if you really want to feel challanged try havin NO back up. It is difficult yet incredably rewarding and I would not trade one moment I have spent with either one of my girls. They are becoming great human beings and as an engineer at heart...I have to say they are some of my FINEST DESIGN work

 

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It is a usually a felony if the animal is tortured, or a misdemeanor if it just cruelty.



I certainly don't believe you all about this spanking issue. It is certainly NOT the only thing that works! Involvement with your children, influencing and what-not is key. I have NO respect for the parent who uses threat, fear, or pain to "inspire" thier children. And I can not believe any parent would give another person permission to beat their child. That is disgusting! If YOU fail at training your children to behave, then don't allow someone else to traumatize your kid. If someone even thought to take a belt or paddle to my child, I would destroy them. I am always ready to take the head off of any threat to my child's well being. Just like you don't need to beat a dog to train it. Sure, it might listen out of fear, call it respect if you want (respect out of fear) but there will be underlying issues that never had to be. How dare anyone condone striking a child with a belt or a paddle!? Especially a non-parent who is NOT doing it out of love!? If someone suggested that to me, I would slap them in the face. They wouldn't even deserve a good punch, that's weak!

Don't like kids now-a-days? Maybe it's simply because your older!? Ignorance is annoying, sure... I agree with that. We don't need to beat our kids to work the farm anymore, times have changed, and we EVOLVED.

Idiots like these kids don't have a parental connection. Are you trying to tell me that "back in your days" teens would have NEVER let their dogs kill a cat out of the thrill? What BS! Who cares about their clothing, or their music? You didn't have to things back then to annoy the elders with, or you would have!

 

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Yeah, the IDIOT father raised a child who brought a loaded hand gun to school! (where did he get that?) Ever consider the father who thinks it's okay to beat a kid like that, ended up raising a kid who brought the gun? Obviously the kid had issues before that one beating, and he wasn't born that way.

Any of you ever consider that maybe you don't like this generation of teens because their parents were raised by people who "influenced" them through fear and threats of pain or humiliation? There is no emotional connection taking place during a beating, and that is the distance that is causing this issue. Explain to me how the hell a beating is going to cause the child to grow and be able to weigh-out situations in the future? The thought of, "Oh, I better not do that or my dad/mom will beat my butt." Is only going to motivate a person so long, and they STILL haven't learned any real balancing of morals. I am so heated right now...

 

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Riptora -

No I really don't care for most kids that have come across my path these days...don't like teenage girls that tell their mothers to F**K OFF, don't like teenage boys that think pushin a girl around makes them a man, don't like teen age drug peddlers in the gym....but what I really dispise is these teenagers parents that are too busy being door matts, or defenders of actions such as those described in this article.....I can hear the parents now..."They are good boys, they just don't like cats!!!" Well gee how do you reason with that logic. I will also say back in the day and runnin with mostly boys as I had 4 brothers...your damn straight none of those kids would have turned a dog on a defensless cat, because most of their friends could not stomach it and therefore would not allow it, the others were afraid their PARENTS might find out and ,,,,,uuummmmm,,,,, they would GET IN TROUBLE.

As far as turnin the paddle over to someone else, I agree with you...if paddeling is required I WILL HANDLE IT. But if most of these kids had been disciplined by all means necessary, fewer would be in prison taken more than just a fews wacks on the bottom......

 

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Riptora -


I just responded to your post and forgot I was not logged in...so you may see this twice. But I really do not care for most kids that have come across my path in recent years. I don't like teenage girls that tell their mothers to "F**K OFF", nor do I like teenage boys that slap their girlfriends around to make them feel like a man, nor do I like teenage boys peddling drugs at the gym.

As far as "back in the day" someone turnin a dog on a cat, I have to say ..I ran mostly with boys cuz of the brothers, would not have happened mostly because the group would not have allowed it...some would never be able to stomach that others would be afraid they would be found out and have to face their parents...imagine that.

As far as someone else swattin my kid, NO NEED..if it needs to be done I will do it. But I feel had some of these youngsters that are spendin time behind bars gotten a swift kick in their ass early enough they wouldn't be takin their lumps in prison now...and I imagine these lessons are a whole lot harder to take.

 

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I'm going to go pick up my kids now. I told them this morning if they were good at school today we could play with Moon Sand (kind of like PlayDough). If they were bad, or misbehave on the way home, or at home, I will take it away. If they continue to disobey, I will take some other privlege away. If they back talk I will assume a very dominant tone of voice, body stance, looking directly into their eyes, while issuing a threat of time out, or removal of a beloved item of theirs.

You can all rest assured that my kids will flower into the most brilliant and amazing adults you can imagine. It will be by luck that you ever meet one of them, and if you do, expect to be treated with respect and dignity.

I am a single mother. I am two-in-one, and I chose to do it the hard way by NOT threatening my kids into obeying me, make them fear me. They don't fear my belt, they fear my disapproval!

If anyone ever hurt one of my children whether now at the ages of 5 and 4, or later at the ages of 65, I would remove them from this Earth. NEVER would I put a paddle in someone else's hand and say, "Teach my kid"

 

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That is good....I bet your children will be a pleasure to be around as young adults, just think about how you will feel when your well behaved child comes across one that was not raised as yours were - or mine for that matter, and when you confront the parents...they tell you to get over it, it is not easy because folks like you in my 20 years of raising children are the minority.....

 

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.[/QUOTE]I just responded to your post and forgot I was not logged in...so you may see this twice. But I really do not care for most kids that have come across my path in recent years. I don't like teenage girls that tell their mothers to "F**K OFF", nor do I like teenage boys that slap their girlfriends around to make them feel like a man, nor do I like teenage boys peddling drugs at the gym. .[/QUOTE]
I agree, it is disturbing.

.[/QUOTE]As far as "back in the day" someone turnin a dog on a cat, I have to say ..I ran mostly with boys cuz of the brothers, would not have happened mostly because the group would not have allowed it...some would never be able to stomach that others would be afraid they would be found out and have to face their parents...imagine that..[/QUOTE]
You ran with a good crowd, but I am sure there were just as many "bad" ones around. They just didn't bleed it on the internet, or the Tellie.

.[/QUOTE]As far as someone else swattin my kid, NO NEED..if it needs to be done I will do it. .[/QUOTE]
Yep, your kids, your job. I have swatted here and there, but I don't go so far as to have designated items of beating... that's just disgusting.

.[/QUOTE]But I feel had some of these youngsters that are spendin time behind bars gotten a swift kick in their ass early enough they wouldn't be takin their lumps in prison now...and I imagine these lessons are a whole lot harder to take.[/QUOTE]
It really is too bad that society ends up raising some teens, but they don't do it out of love, they do it to out of annoyance... because they are not the loving parents.

 

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Fantasizing about what kind of adults my kids will be (even teenagers) keeps me going. My rock, my motivation, my drive behind being the best I can be. Without them, I see myself as weak.

 

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Good post MyDawgs.

Riptora - we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Using the methods you use (withholding) can be effective. My dad used it on me when I was too old to spank & I responded well to it.

But I also think spankings work wonders. When I was growing up & parents were spanking their kids & kids were getting paddlings at school you didn't see the bad behaviour you do now.

I was in school was around when paddling at schools was phased out & I saw the change in the kids first hand. Their attitude went from humble & submissive to I can do anything I want - & they did! They had nothing to fear.

Plus, I saw it in my own house hold. I got spanked & I turned out great. I knew if I did X Y or Z, there would be hell to pay. My brother didn't get spanked & he stole, did drugs, drank, etc. Again, he had nothing to fear. Even to this day I respect my mother & he will curse her out in public or yell at her at the drop of a hat.

Done right spanking is not going to irrepairably harm your child. But there are a lot of moms today who are too weak to spank their kids (like my mom was w/ my brother). And the kids suffer for it.

For example, my brother had to suffer the effects of alcohol abuse, drug abuse & being in & out of juvee hall. All b/c she didn't make it abundantly clear that there were going to be strong (& painful) reprocussions for defying the house rules & then enforce those rules.

I say a little pain now will save your you & your child a lot of pain later.

Plus, I believe spanking are OK b/c the Word of God says it is OK. Proverbs 29:17 says "Correct thy son & he will give you rest." Do you think my mother got any rest while my brother was in the house? Let me tell you, she got none. NONE. And it was her fault.

Proverbs 13:24 says "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines diligently." So not only did she not have any rest b/c of her disobedience, in the eyes of God she hated her son.

So as someone who has seen the results first hand I believe in spanking & as a Christian who knows God has our best interests at heart I believe in spanking.

There is of course a difference between spankings & beatings & a difference between discipline & punishment. A lot of ppl get them confused, but they are worlds apart.

JMHO ...

 

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I just want you to know that I was not directing ANY statement towards you or your kids personally. I was speaking of the majority. I know there are some kids out there, and usually 9 times out of 10 when you find one, the parents are also on the better side.
Hope nobody took what I said to heart.

 

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No need to explain yourself southeastern. My husband & I don't really care for kids either. But hells bells if you actually come out & say that. You will have every mother w/in hearing distance crawling up your butt like a wet thong.

Moms - just b/c someone doesn't like kids as a whole doesn't mean we dislike YOUR kids. If a child is well-mannered & respectful, I do not have a problem w/ that child. The sad thing is most children today are NOT well-mannered or respectful.

 

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Same here! Thank you for better explaining.

 

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Now thats what I'm talkin about, and 9 times out 10 when you run into the kid you would like keel haul, and you meet their parents...you say to your self "Oh I get it now....."

 

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How true!!

And what's worse is that the parents don't get it when you say you don't like kids! Doy! Wonder why?!!