Looking for insight.

This question may seem simple in nature to some but I was wondering,...If given the chance to acquire a inbred pup (sis/bro) off of a particular line or a line bred pup off that same line (giving all dogs or equal in producing quality stuff), which pup scenario would you think would have a higher percentage of creating quality dogs? I ask this because it is of my understanding that by inbreeding you are basically doubling up on traits, both good and bad. With that said, which would be the best direction to take and why in your opinions?

 

Something down from Bell's Baby Jones

 

i only want heavy inbred dogs if i bred most of the dogs behind it. or if i seen more then enough from the family to understand the avg of the family. i never hold my breath on a pup especially when i get just one from a litter. inbreeding is just a tool when used right it can produce monsters. but you need to really understand why your inbreeding in the first place. the man behind the dogs is the most important factors. a dipshit can have tight bullyson but won't produce what Rgang did.

 

I like the line bred pup over the sis/bro. But, that also depends on how tight the sire and dam were bred. If they were both inbred then that would be a toss up and based on the sire and dam production record together or there accomplishments.

 

Good post!! The best performance dog I ever owned is off a bro/sis breeding. Her positives are great but her negatives are just a bad, she's timid, irregular heat cycle, and a cronic chewer like both parents. But both parent were above average performers and she is as well. So just be aware of the family traits (good and bad), before you pay for a inbred pup. I prefer line bred dogs over heavily inbred, but you can get great results from both if the breeder knows what he's doing. Good luck with it.

 

Thanks for all of the feedback. The male is approaching 7yrs of age so he breeding back to each other in order to attempt to recreate that litter that the male came out of. Well that atleast how it was explained to me. the bro is a true bulldog and sis showed well and was kept as brood stock. Heavy boyles stuff. some of the dogs in his 2nd and 3rd gen are Ch keybump, Ch emmit,D. beetle bailey, andy capp,...backed by plenty more good dogs. So hopefully i will get a monster to be proud of.

 

Some great dogs up close mentioned, good luck with it

 

An inbred (family) dog will throw a greater number of dogs per litter like itself due to the reduced gene pool it has. All the traits in a breeding of this type will be locked in to the genetics and any faults will be extremely difficult to remove and will take many generations of very hard culling.
Therefore, to do an inbreeding the dogs in question must be alot more than just good bulldogs, they must be near as perfect as can be in their health and mental deveopment since any defects will become locked in and magnified.
However if you do get a well bred dog that is inbred and he proves to be a bulldog then you have yourself a very good producer by all rights.*

*there are exceptions to every rule.

 

Twice the good, triple the trash.

 

the only problem with not breeding form curs is to many curs have produced winners

 

something like this http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=211914 still throwin

 

i like slims view

 

That's the answer!!

 

wow man would i like to sit around you at the dog show for a while and you didn't even get mad at me for posting his ped

 

slim you mentioned iron head i punched in on google carver bred dogs what came up was some guy called chopper --n and claims to have alot of iron head ,,latter on at some show i had a copy of one of his peds showed somebody said stayaway known as a pedler never looked him back up some of the were mostly white something i would not want but some looked good is it worth looking into

 

great thread nfahred, thanks!

 

Glad to ask something which has generated so much interest! lol I have the pup now. He's almost 5months and is a handful. Can't wait till he matures!:dogtongue: