Interesting ...

I came across this today & found it interesting ...

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=18016

 

Interesting indeed. Wonder if Ginny York knew about that, if its even true.

 

"This is"? or "This was"?.................

 

I believe was.

I was looking at the ped of this dog:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=207063

Whiskey recently passed away at the age of 12, so I would assume Magnum Brute is long dead.

But I found his being a game pure York dog interesting nonetheless.

 

LOL. I was just being nitpicky with their grammar in reference to a dead dog....if he is dead....he must be dead.....is he?

 

Maybe he is into Cryogenics...

 

Doy. I thought you were asking if this was a dog of recent times or times past.

They say he is an "honest to goodness dead game bulldog." I guess they examined him pretty good afterward to make sure he was "honest to goodness" dead, eh?

lmao ...

 

Just because "York" put their name on a few of them dogs, doesn't detract from the fact they come from Ruffian/X-pert and other "sometimes" working lines with a small ammount of gamebred APBT blood.

 

That is what I found interesting. X-Pert & Ruffian, as you already know are AKC show lines. I'ts not often you see a dead game AmStaff.

Sure, I know X-Pert & Ruffian go back to Blackjack, but all the dogs in Magnum's ped for 10 generations (save for the ancestors of York's Cinnamon) are all AKC or UKC show dogs.

 

I've seen Carver x X-pert crosses that were bad ass dogs. The X-pert line started about 90mins south of were I live and it used to be pretty common stuff.

 

Entering a show doesn't neccessarily mean they aren't bred for other reasons, you know that. Could very well be a rare throwback, who got lucky to land in the hands of someone who looked at it. Or, it could just as easily be a marketing ploy to "prove" these dogs are one and the same.

One of the first truly game dogs I ever seen, was a scratching-fool Amstaff, who amazed everyone with her gameness. She was proving to be almost as game as a live one can come, and if not picked up, may of very well been another DG "staff" in a short ammount of time. Last time I seen her, she came out of the dog box looking like she had been run over by a bulldozer, and thrown in a meat-grinder, and in all truthfulness, that's a pretty good analogy considering the badass hog she was trying to catch. She was lost not long after, due to an outbreak that took 1/2 the yard, after a run of what her owner (looking back) believes was Parvo/Coronavirus

CrazyK9-although that was the logic for the name/registration change, it's a faulty statement in that many gamedoggers worked that stock as hard as any APBT.

 

If all those Ruffian dogs were AKC registered, they bred away from gameness, not for it. That was the whole reason for the name change, to distinguish the breed from its fighting brothers.

That dog's sire's blood goes back to AKC Staffs when they were first recognized in the 1930's. I seriously doubt that 70 years later, there is any more than a .001% chance of a dog from those lines ending up game. Now, his bottom half added into that, might bring those chances up a bit ...but I highly doubt it is enough to produce a fast-lane, dead game bulldog.

But, hey, who knows maybe this dog defied the laws of science! :p

 

If a dog gets itself killed on a hunt before it really takes a lickin' is it truly dead game?

 

No IMO. Then it's just dead.

It's got to prove itself first & foremost.

 

york dogs are pretty. i like the markings.

 

Yup I agree. So to them It could "dead game" when to us it's just dead. LOL