Hard Culling or Genetic Re-Direction by CA Jack

and the gyp freezes up. Don't start doesn't do ANYTHING except look around at all the people...

There is your answer. She never quit because she never started. Its not the size of the show but the quality of the hogs. If she ran through Tornado would you care whether there were two people to witness it or one thousand. Does the size of the show speak to the quality of hounds present? What i think should have been done (besides not culling her) was go back into that gyp at a different venue (smaller/familiar). In other words, conduct an experiment by taking into account your variables.

 

If your not first your last.

 

If your not first your last.


Does a "match" absolutely determine first and last or is it the quality of the hound? There are a number of ways you can lose a match which are INDEPENDENT of the hog.

 

Damnit junie.... Im drunk watchin taladega nights... The appropriate response woulda been shake and bake...
But seriously, If the dog wont cross the street why show her anyway...Everybodies assuming she aint go cuz of the crowd but there is still the possibility that she just aint wanna do her JOB...

 

"Ima come at you like a spider monkey!"

Yes, it is an assumption but a "safe" one considering the problem laid out: X amount of positive data and one ANOMALY (i wont say negative because she did not quit). When you get data that is inconsistent with previous info then you RECHECK the data/"run tape again".

BTW, you are also assuming that she didn't want to cross because of what was on the other side.

 

if the gyp was rolled like minuteman posted then she was started." gyp that demolishes everything in school" "put something RUFF on her, and then another when she walks thru that" wasn't talking about a cold gyp now was he. her motor ran just fin at her yard but seezed up come show time. cold dogs dont get rolled let alone 2 dogged. hypocritically speaking.

 

It may sound like a whole lot of what ifs but she possibly couldve been ruined in her rolls..which isnt her fault but still made her a cur none the less.. he did say she went bak home and acted good but whos to say she aint wanna GO cuz she had a cur moment..
Like i think ben was sayin. Cold dont =Cur, so if you already been started and aint go I think that= Cur... But im no dogman and i think this is a great discussion...

"my teacher asked me what was the capitol of North Carolina and I said Washington,D.C."

 

Don't start doesn't do ANYTHING except look around at all the people...

What part of "don't start doesn't do anything..." dont you understand.

 

She was started when she was back home Rollin actin like a bulldog... Are you sayin your satisfied with a dog starting and stopping cuz that sounds like a cur dog to me..

 

he did say she went bak home and acted good

Exactly. Which would INCREASE the chance of positive data and DECREASE the chance of the anomaly being a true representation of the dog. EVERY dog has a "Cur moment" in them, it is up to the dogman to account for this similar to taking into consideration altitude, style, conditioning, diet, schooling........... The question you have to ask is: Is the impetus enviromental or genetic?

 

to be totally honest junebug i get the impression it is you that don't understand. considering he was talking about a gyp that was rolled & multi dogged & looked so good was worth a bet. when it came time to party got spooked. so please RECHECK your data.

 

"EVERY dog has a Cur moment" :crap: if you do this conversation is over. because as sure as a frogs ass is wet you are green.

 

So was she started or not cuz maybe im missin sumthin here.:confused::confused::confused:

 

You notice how you keep ref. to previous events and not the event at hand. Did she quit at the match or did she not start? Looks like a chronology and grammar lesson is needed.
A cold dog is not generally considered a cur because it did not START but a dog that doesnt start is a cur? fascinating......

 

Absolutely! Please prove me wrong without talking like a child. tigerlines couldn't. Yes, i am about as green as they come (see how i pulled the rug from under you)

 

no CLK you ain't missing the point junebug is offering excuses. that or he don't know the difference between COLD & CUR. point blank cold dogs dont get schooled & damn sure don't get multi dogged or run through anything. a rough cur can do that in there own yard but take them out there back yard & it's all down hill from there.

 

junebug you cheeky fucker.......im yet to comment on this thread,..... stop refering to previous events , and stick to the events at hand

 

well we learn sumthin new everyday bcuz my understanding was that once a dog is started, THEY ARE STARTED:mad:

 

there's nothing for me to prove junebug because your reply speak for itself. anyone that ever seen a cold dog will tell you the same. im not about to repost what i already told you. there is a serch button & lots of threads on cold dogs. & no i don't see how you pulled anything from BB.

 

This is what ben is telling his boss when asked if he started work TODAY: I started yesterday and the day before sooooo by definition (?) i STARTED to work TODAY. If a dog doesn't cross the line from the get go, did it start?