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debt ceiling tea party and obama re-election

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by hammer head, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

  2. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

  3. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    yes right SOME people cost more then others ......
    here in the erea are 2 or 3 people ...can't remember what they have ..but its pretty unic .
    they cost the community 600.000 a year base ,
    the minister of health is gonne talk with the factory who produce this medicins ..to get the price down .....
    the rest of the comminity is happy that ..they don't have to take those medicins .
    with them or with out ..the monthly money stay the same ....
     
  4. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    here they said if you have bad credit your payment will be higher . you can't even get through to the site lol what a joke this is . and i don't think thoughs people had some strange illness to make them pay more . you will be surprised to see what happens in 1-2 months . the world will tell the US to go home and fix your problems .
     
  5. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    goat in our system .....if you can prove that you with your organic and herbs .
    treatment you can do wel for cancer patient's.......you have a deal .....
    any thing else if it works you have a deal ....
    its more or les a declaration system.
    insurr companies organising many things........ ..for their cliente's to live more healthy
    cheaper for them .:)
     
  6. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    Key, I'm glad it works in your country and you all like being controlled. I do not and most americans do not. This along with other taxes are just a way for the government to put thier foot where it doesn't belong. I'm all for cheaper health care for everyone not just some. If Obamacare were better, I would be all about it but it's not.
     
  7. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    the government shouldn't be able to say if you have good credit, you don't use tobacco products and you eat organic foods which cost 3 times as much as normal foods you will get insurance cheaper than others. People who this is supposed to target, don't eat extremely healthy because they can't afford it.
     
  8. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    we don't see this as a tax ....just a way to make this life a bit easyer
    we are just used to it ....if you make a list of monthly cost's .....this monthly money is number one ..then the car ect and on the end it is food ....
    food should be in front of the car cost's for example
    about food ::: yes changing from fast food into slowfood slowly..
    if you spend some more time ...thinking about food ...you wil see that organic aka normal food is cheaper then you think .

    my erea is champion from the world in trying not to pay tax :).
     
  9. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    Organic food is way more expensive no matter which way you cut it. Also, there are no benefits to eating organic and guidelines to organic food are blurry. Not to mention many of the pesticides they use on organic crops are more harmful to both people and the environment. Someone is making hella profit off this lie.
     
  10. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    i think there benefits to organic ...
    it start with the taste first ...
    try eat a coliflor from supermarket and eat one who is organic
    also try cucumber .....or tomato .....
    for exemple tomato ...
    eat one from super market and eat one from organic origin ...the first taste as water and the second as tomato lol
    but even if you wanne organic ..its posible to eat more healthy
    just stop eating fastfood ...and not meat everyday

    10 years the national party of france blow up 2 mac donald's ..in bretagne( a erea in france)
    because they say mac donald destroy the food culture of france ...wel i agreed with that ...
    this shit took a year ...sence then ....when your order a hamburger in bretagne ....
    there is no cheap unhealthy cow meat anymore between this bread .....but chest of a duck ....lol
     
  11. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    but even if you don't want eat organic (expansive or other reason).......
     
  12. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    key we're screwed the whole country is in bad trouble . now they're saying the 2 top guys over the nuclear program was fired because of playing around grabbing ass . and other fake casinos chips . a 4.5 earthquake in the atlantic on act 8 just after the nuc's went missing . they know if it's a earthquake or not . HLS buying 1.7 billion rounds of ammo . police departments getting 38,000 lbs trucks from the military . arresting vets at memorials . not boardcasting on mainstream media the trucker ride for the constitution but they were seen anyway . in 2012 the Maya calendar telling of the reset the solar system . nov 13 mars and the sun will be in a place we ain't going to like .
     
  13. Grabo86

    Grabo86 Big Dog

    I cant stand these stupid Tea-Party people! What the hell is wrong with Health Insurance? These people need to wake up! I have to say i live in another country where health insurance is normal and we cant stand people who are still against it. Imagine you get ill and need expensive medication but you have not enough money to buy it because you have no Health Insurance......
     
  14. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    The reason we have a problem with it is because not everyone will be covered (still), premiums are increasing while coverage decreases, the IRS is now in charge of it, no one knows how exactly it's going to work, they are taxing new medical devices meaning companies will stick with old technology, and the politicians that created it are exempting themselves from what they are forcing onto the public.

    It's not the tea party causing all of this. The house has been sending spending bills to the Senate all year and only 1 has passed. The Dems refuse to compromise on anything although the house has sent numerous different bills. I think the most recent funds the government if the Senate agrees the government has to abide by the ACA like the public, but so far they have said no. Before this they wanted to delay the individual mandate like the Dems delayed company mandates, but that wouldn't. Make you wonder why the people have to get it now but corporations don't.
     
  15. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

  16. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

  17. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    If I said to you, "Grabo, you will pay $50 each week or $200 a month every month for insurance. Your deductible will be $1,000 and you still have to pay 20% of the bill once your deductible is met. I am exempt because you are paying my half each month, I don't have a deductible and my bill is covered 100%" How would you react?
    Let me say this, if you have surgery on your knee which cost $30,000. You will pay $1,000 for your deductible, then another 20% of the $29,000 balance which is $5,800 so your total out of pocket is $6,800. Now you didn't pay $30,000 which is a plus but the hospital under obamacare has the right to send you monthly bills and refuse whatever you send them if it does not meet the minimum payment. They can also send it to collections which goes against your credit and causes your premium to go up. If your like most americans this was supposed to help, you aren't going to be able to afford the $250 monthly payment they want and you can't just flip them $20 or $30 every month because it's all you could afford. They can send that back to you and refuse your money which they will beause they can.
     
  18. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    key, I really like your positive about eating healthy, I do agree that tomoatoes do taste better when you get them from the garden than from the store. I will agree that meat is better from a butcher than from the store but it's not cheaper and you eat just as much as you would from your local market than from wal-mart. The only difference, wal-mart is 1/2 the price and they accept debit/credit cards or checks. Per pound, you will pay out the nose for fresh beef and 9 times out of 10 even if it comes from the butcher, he bought it from the feed barn and they sell both commercial and local beef. Same cow, different prices. I know this for fact because we run cattle as well.
     
  19. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    Yep. Unless you're the one growing or raising the food, you're better off skipping the organic labeled food.
     
  20. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Obamacare is a bunch of BS. Starting in January my new insurance premiums jump 150 dollars more a month Because of Obamacare. and I am one of those stupid tea party people you're talking about. We have enough social programs over here now taking care of people that don't have insurance at all. you need to get your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off. This is BS nobody should have to pay for somebody else's insurance.
     

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