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brazilian jiu jitsu

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by masta of game, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. Josh Barnett the only legit catch wrestler ever? Karl Gotch, Lou Thez, Ed Lewis, Ad Santel... These were submission grapples that were breaking legs long berfore Sambo and BJJ. I never said which was the premier ground fighting style or most effective for that matter. I just stated that catch wrestling submissions were possibly the most brutal. I'm a big fan of the ADCC hell I would love to compete in it some day. They may have a lot of Adcc tournaments, but 10? I dont think there has been 10 ADCC tournaments, it only comes around every 2 years.
     
  2. websterz28

    websterz28 Big Dog

    maybe only 6 or so but you understand the idea,
    looked it up this year will be the 8th it began in 1998 one per year till 2001 and every other year since
     
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  3. I love all styles of grappling...My instructor is a Black Belt under Walt Bayless.. Like I said before my favorite grappler is Jacare Souza who is an absolute beast on the mat and his a BJJ black belt. My turn off to catch as catch can is they don't play guard a lot...
     
  4. KeystoneState

    KeystoneState Big Dog

    Dont forget Kazushi Sakuraba! Hehe
     
  5. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    I like jorge "gamebred" Masvidal . I think that guy is the best in mma.:D
     
  6. KADO

    KADO Pup

    I spent some time there!! Got my first fight in Arizona (got my A** whipped!) and haven't done anything but train since! Hoping to Check out some of the action they have around Valdosta GA. I might be able to last past the second round this time!!!
     
  7. masta of game

    masta of game Banned

    Joint Injuries and Repair: Hyper Extended Elbows

    One of the most common injuries in jiu jitsu is "joint hyper
    extension". This occurs when a joint, usually an elbow, is push
    beyond its normal range of motion. Since one of the key principles
    in jujitsu is to attack the weak points in the body, this joint
    usually receives a lot of attention in practice.

    Injuries in the martial arts do happen, especially in jitsu systems
    where self defense and joint manipulation are constantly drilled.
    Factors such as student (in)experience, movement or improper
    technique can cause injuries to you or your training partner.
    Injuries are a fact of martial art life. After all, the more you
    sweat in practice, the less you bleed in combat.

    What should I do to fix an injury like a hyper extended elbow?

    My first advice is: go slow and be kind to your training partner.
    Never go full bore on your partner right from the start. We need to
    work in a spirit of cooperation in order to keep each other as safe
    and injury free as possible. Keep your ego in check and never try
    to show your stuff on someone who is willingly giving themselves to
    you. It is not only dangerous but it goes against the martial
    spirit that we foster in the dojo.

    Now, having said that, accidents do happen. Often, when an elbow is
    stressed, tendons begin to stretch. If pushed harder, they begin to
    tear. When an elbow joint tears, all you'll hear is some "popping
    sounds", very similar to when you crack your knuckles. Your
    partner will most likely not feel anything immediately. This is
    because there are no nerves in the tendon area. However, within a
    minute or so, when the arm is back to its normal range of motion,
    you'll notice a lack of movement (range), weakness, and a "dull
    ache" that will get worse with time.

    If you should "tweak your elbow", here are some things you can do
    to help tend to the problem.

    Ice it immediately for 10 minutes. The cold will cause the swelling
    to go down. You then want to keep in an immobile position. Some
    Advil (Ibuprofen) will also help. If the elbow is tweaked or torn,
    you'll need to lay off the jujitsu for a while. Depending on the
    severity of the injury, this could mean 1-4 weeks off. For us die
    hards, this can seem like an eternity. But you need to let the body
    start to heal itself.

    Also, a great supplement for joint problems is something called
    glucosamine. Since glucosamine is a precursor for
    glycosaminoglycans, and glycosaminoglycans are a major component of
    joint cartilage, supplemental glucosamine may help to rebuild
    cartilage, treat arthritis, or help with joint repair. It can be
    bought at any health food store.

    However, one of my instructors told me about another natural remedy
    called hydro therapy. Hydro therapy uses ice as the main tool for
    repair. Here is how it works:

    You'll need: Dixie cups, water, and a topical solution called
    TRAMIL, a dish towel, and some cling wrap.

    Take some Dixie cups and fill them with water. Place them in the
    freezer and let them freeze. Take a Dixie up out of the freezer and
    tear about 25% of the cup so the ice is exposed. Rub the Dixie cup
    over the affected area until the ice has melted down to the torn
    edge.

    Next, use your thumb to push and message the injured area. You need
    to really get that "digging deep shiatsu" pushing in order to (what
    my instructor called) "chase the pain". After you have chased the
    pain for a few minutes, place some Tramil on the effected area. Do
    this once a day for seven days.

    At night, wet a dish towel and place it in the freezer. When you
    are about to go to bed, wrap the frozen towel around your elbow and
    then wrap some cling wrap around the towel (so it stays in place
    and doesn't get your bed wet). Go to sleep. Your arm will go numb
    after about 5 minutes. You'll most likely wake up a few hours later
    and feel like your elbow is on fire (hot). This is because the body
    has been rushing blood to the affected area in order to warm it up.

    Now here is the magical part. The body's best defense against
    injuries is to flush an area (the muscle and joint area) with
    blood. The cold/hot hydro therapy speeds up and maximizes the
    body's natural healing system! Do this for seven nights.

    This may sound crazy and strange but IT WORKS. And when you have an
    injury and everything seems not to be working, I suggest you take a
    good look at this article again. Take it from a guy who knows and
    has had his fair share of injuries....joint separations.......broken
    bones....bloody noses.....bruises...bumps....scraps......

    Safe Training!

    Ari Bolden
     
  8. masta of game

    masta of game Banned

    did u guys here about the online testing the gracie acedemy is offering.. if u pass u get a blue belt :mad:
     
  9. KADO

    KADO Pup

    I saw that, think it's bullshit. Now your gonna have have ton of people who THINK they know what they are doin.
     
  10. websterz28

    websterz28 Big Dog

    Being a very legit blue belt i realy do not like this, standards vary from school to school but this is just idiotic, I am very proud of my blue belt but with other places practicaly giving blue belts away it diminishes how others would asume my skill level would be being a blue belt. if you go to a gracie barra school for a year, year and a half you get a blue belt, some shools give em out in 8 mo, MY schoo takes 2 - 3 years of training2-4 times a week to get a blue belt...those bluebelts arent even close to being in the same skill range and its almost embarassing im considered the same rank as them... but when it comes tourney time i get to wipe the mats with theyre asses so i gues ill get over it...
    most gracie schools are like mcdonalds they make the most hamburgers but they dont nesecarily make the best ones
     
  11. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    gracie's are salesmen first & formost. they found threr nitch at the right time. there Bjj is not any better then anyone else's no one camp is dominant in the game. the quality of people at the gym is what makes names.
     
  12. game_test

    game_test Top Dog


    no offense, but that is why my coach calls gracia barra the mcdonalds of jui jitsu. we literally have a dozen of thier schools within driving distance.
     
  13. masta of game

    masta of game Banned

    takes us 2 years if not more to get blue belt, because i practice with this white belt dude and he has been on the white belt for more than one year and a half, it depends on the instructor/school, my school is affiliated with gracie barra, my instructure was for a long time the only non brazilian training jiu jitsu regularly at barra, until around 1995-95 when some american began to make the pilgrimage to brazil to learn the art of gracie jiu jitsu , in 1999 he was awarded his gracie jiu jitsu black belt by coach and mentor carlos , this made him the first and to date the only Australian ever to train and to be coveted rank of black belt in brazil.
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    so yeah, i have a good coach atleats, im proud of it LOL:D;)
     
  14. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    I had 15yrs training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from old carlson gracie school.
     
  15. Rebs

    Rebs Banned

    I think BJJ practitioners are a whole bunch of closet fudge packers mate, including the women in it, they have to much 70's porn star facial hair goin on. :D.
     
  16. masta of game

    masta of game Banned

    hahahhaha.. wass up rebs ;):D u funny guy

    i was gonna pm u something, its a small world man LOL
     
  17. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    so all fighter of MMA in the world are?cause all use the BJJ skills in they fights why Royce won those first UFC?cause noboby knows nothing of BJJ and when the all world beguin to training the things start to happend today 99% of all MMA fighters had experience with BJJ.
     
  18. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    what I told after I tell now Sakuraba use the BJJ skills in all his fights tell him to fight without use them and you will see what's gone happend..hehehehe wow one more thing Wanderley"Mad Dog" Silva send a big kiss in sakuraba ass of course if Sakuraba wake up..hehehehe
     
  19. KeystoneState

    KeystoneState Big Dog

    I used Sakuraba as an example of a catch wrestler. If you've got a problem with his nick name, talk to him about it. So many Gracie jock riders...
    Karo Parisyan, Makoto Takimoto, Kazuhiro Nakamura, Hidehiko Yoshida...All BJJ players, right?
    Nobody knew about BJJ?! Infact, Ask Masahiko Kimura bout that Jujutsu ne-waza.

    Fact is groundwork is very important in today's MMA environment. And the Gracies' are responsible for "legitimizing" it. Don't mean they got the market cornered, though.
    Don't hate the player Caos, Hate the game...:cool:
     
  20. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    I don't had nothing about sakuraba cause each fight it's a new story I just told that Silva beat him really bad twice sakuraba when remember the fights against Silva crying untill today cause was a shame to him and all japan.
     

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