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Answer me this

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by ben brockton, Jul 8, 2023.

  1. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Why do folks add " filler" to their feed?
     
    ben brockton, Jul 8, 2023
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  2. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Define filler.
    And define “add”.
     
    kiwidogman, Jul 10, 2023
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  3. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Saves money for a sense of the warm fuzzies.

    S



     
    slim12, Jul 10, 2023
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  4. Laced

    Laced Pup

    Could be a few reasons... cuttin corners to save $$ on protien & fat...

    Some folks feed carbs, which in turn...becomes a filler

    For those limited on space..... kibble/rice is a lot easier to store than raw meat...
     
    Laced, Jul 10, 2023
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  5. Bulldoghistorian

    Bulldoghistorian Top Dog

    Started raw back in the niineties I do add carbs
     
    Bulldoghistorian, Jul 10, 2023
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  6. phoenix walk

    phoenix walk Big Dog

    the amount of raw needed to keep a dog fed and healthy is very small , i’d imagine some add fillers to make feeds look bigger
     
    phoenix walk, Jul 10, 2023
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  7. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Biological needs for dogs is protein +fat they will inturn produce there own energy. So adding more than what they require would be considered a filler. The biggest difference between k9 and wolf really comes down to how the gut functions due to domestication.
     
    ben brockton, Jul 10, 2023
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  8. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Wild and domestic dogs, and wolves, will eat the stomach and intestines of prey to obtain predigested carbohydrates and fibre.
     
    kiwidogman, Jul 10, 2023
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  9. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    That's ridiculous to think that's why. Organs are pretty much the most nutrient dense parts. If a carnivore is ate the same Organs consumed regardless.
     
    ben brockton, Jul 11, 2023
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  10. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    If we dialed it down to just what the dog 'needs' it would be fats and proteins and the amounts are minimal.

    Fats for energy and proteins for recovery/re-build.

    Dogs will survive on just about anything but the list of what they will thrive on is small.

    The most ironic part is when we dream up this feed plan and couple it with a work plan, we truly believe the dog is 'thriving' and we have the warm fuzzies all over.

    Most of the time we are asking his gut/digestive system to do things it was simply not designed to do.

    And in return they perform admirably.

    Sort of odd/ironic how that works.

    S
     
    slim12, Jul 11, 2023
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  11. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    Do you add egg shells?
     
    Michele, Jul 11, 2023
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  12. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    You’re ridiculous
     
    kiwidogman, Jul 11, 2023
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  13. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Actually.........

    That is a misconception. Wolves do not typically eat the rumen of their kill.
    It's how hunters can tell the difference between a bear kill or a wolf kill. The only reason predators go for the gut area first of a kill is because it's all soft tissue and easier to open up the animal. Has nothing to do with nutrition needs. More like ease of access. Wolves though don't typically eat entrails. Bears will.
     
    AGK, Jul 11, 2023
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  14. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Coyotes don't either.
     
    AGK, Jul 11, 2023
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  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    No wolf or dog ever thought man I could really go for a salad and breadsticks lmfao
     
    ben brockton, Jul 11, 2023
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  16. daisymason

    daisymason Pup

    Ive had good experience with feeding higher protein including kibble along with meats etc, while making sure the carbs are low.
     
    daisymason, Aug 9, 2023
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