Todays staffords it's a shame

[QUOTE I love that there are plenty available and depending on what you prefer you can go with the breeder of your choice. [/QUOTE]

thats just my point.......there arent any fastlane SBT breeders left.....plenty of staffs that are big or small, but none that can honestly compete other than cuteness. I would have a brindle SBT as a family pet but as I can find plenty of game bred APBT that are equallily cute,obedient and can compete in the fastlane I feed my current stock

 

There are very few sbt out there that can beat apbt in the fastlane,but these fastlane dogs end up ch and gch and cant be beat by others of their own breed that are classed as fastlane,but there are still a few sbt,out and about that can run with the apbt weather you like it or not.Dont get me wrong you will prob get through a lot of staffs before you get a good one,but you will also go through a lot of apbt before you get a top class fastlane dog and even more to get a ace.What stock you runin hammer,because that dog in your pic looks like one of them big bags of shit tank dogs.And we are talking pound for pound not a 30 sbt hunting in a park with a 45 pound plus apbt.

 

No offence JTL but i'm pretty sure that dog in the avatar is far from what you may have thought.

 

no matter whats on his avatar, the point is anyone saying theres no staffords worth feeding as just as ignorant as saying all apbts are worth the oxygen they breathe, pile of horseshit. i'm saying this from a bull and terrier dog perspective, i like well bred bulldogs too not just staffords, but because anyone has had shitty mongrels, or staffords from shitty bloodlines doesnt mean they're all the same. i've seen some suppose to be the "shit" jeep/redboy crosses for example, trying to work and it was so shameful i wouldnt own one for free or if it was directly son of jeep or red boy themselves, could care less. does this mean that combo or separate bloodlines of dogs arent worth a damn? itll be really ignorant of me if i thought so
like in any other forum bullshitters and tire kickers will always try to ruin threads as they have no better things to do. usually these people talk so much shit, and this and that about dogs they've owned or own but you never see not even a picture of such fine specimens they are so proud of and talk so much about

 

Again i'll refer to staffords who have proven themselves as having bulldog blood in their mix. Nothing or no one would or could prove me otherwise,unfortunately. Show me a pedigree that says otherwise,not the dog or its name.
Go back in time & there may well have been some who never had any blood added,but they are long gone.
I have never owned a sporting dog worth feeding,so it would be wrong to put a pic up of anything. Wouldn't have a reason to if was lucky enough to have owned one.
If in your opinion there is proven staffords out there,then make sure & breed to them with your equally proven dogs.
JMO

 

plenty of shitty pits thats for sure but they get worked. respect to any working kennel but sbt are not fastlane. aint seen any at a hunt for 20years. there are new dogs off old stock that that are worth feeding but pure jeep dogs have not been getting success for the last 10 years

 

ok i dont get it, cause you havent seen one in ur productive 20 years of involvement with the dogs? i thought you said you only owned a hybrid vigour and another stafford not worth a bowl of food. fast lane stafford none existent? ok your opinion, but far from the truth, try to see see staffords from other circles they will make you eat your own words

 

i wont hold my breath.....lol

 

no body is pushing you to believe it, free will is a worderful thing, im just telling you there are dogs you have no idea about i deduct reading from your posts, but cant blame you after your bad luck with your only two or actually 1 1/2 staffords you had. i dont mind having a nice and civilized debate, are you in the US? just curious that's all

 

how open some on here have been is disgusting and shows little love for the dogs they expect so much from imo.

 

sorry but have no idea what this means, if its directed at me just say 12 gauge so i can respond directly to you

 

this is my first post , i will introduce later . they are still out there , we have a 13 month old female that comes from a game line .we have seen the father , mother , both parents from the mother and 11 others from that family go.36 wins , 11 losses all against apbt. i agree that they are not as common as apbt , and getting one is nearly impossible . we are a team with mostly alligator sorrel and nigerino alligator crosses but the staffords this family has are in the same category as apbt . i will ask my partners of it's ok to show a picture , because they don't like the internet

 

SWEET!! Post away with pics, don't hold back! Hahaha

 

SWEET!! Post away with pics, don't hold back! Hahaha. I'd guess there's a few of folks with these dogs that don t like the enternet that arnt in on these debates! :cool:

 

If i was directing it at you I would have said. I said some on here are open. Could possibly include you in that I mean talking about working staffords and fastlane dogs in which seems to be to prove a point that all staffords arent shit sounds abit crazy to me. If your happy to feed your dogs then feed them, who cares about someones opinion on the internet? Only one way to prove it and if your doing that you dont want to be doing it with anyone whos going to be posting on open internet boards.

 

my mutt

 

never mentioned "my" staffords are fast lane, you got me all wrong they are just my pets, i just want to try to educate some that have no idea about the good staffords around that are competing just like any good apbt. last time i checked this is "the game-dog forum" to my understanding, this is a very good place to make whoever is interested to know there are staffords worth feeding, nothing wrong with that.
this post isnt about any dogs i own, instead, it is about the awesome working staffords left putting smiles on their owners faces

no places, names or dogs mentioned

 

Its starting to get long in the tooth,this mentioning of thrse fast lane,awesome staffords. Bit like the history books in that the more you read them,the more the novices start to believe them. By ranting & raving on so much about something which i'm of the opinion you know fuck all on,you must either be a wrong'n or a fool. Do you persist in your bullshit in the hope that one of these fantasy dogs or yards will surface & give themselves away ?
Are you friends with the fuckin idiot above whose record& claims are laughable ?
The working stafford is long gone,but as long as the likes of yourself keep babbling on your bullshit,then the newcomers will be fooled & the authorities will be knocking on doors,trying to find yheseso called great staffs.
I look forward to seeing the yearbooks in the coming years & reading on thrse so called dogs !

 

the fucking idiot is into gamedogs since1984 . we only used apbt for ourselves but know the guys with staffords for 20 years .why would i make something up .because we have a pup now .my brother met the guy as he was walking the dogs and after some talking he invited him to take a look at our dogs . as soon as he saw that we were serious he invited my brother to his house to see his dogs .at the beginning my brother thought that he was joking because we ourselves thought that only apbt were used in the box but after his fourth visit he watched three rolls and after he came home he kept on talking to me and our partners what he saw .after a while we could see for ourselves how his dogs performed and they were and are the truth . we still use only apbt but if she turns out we will gladly meet you.

 

wheres the like button..........thats the spirit......