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Canada-Family furious after police shoot pit bull in yard

Discussion in 'Pit Bull News' started by Vicki, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup

    You've lost me, How would telling the police dog to release help things?
    it wasn't the one who had hold of the other dog, the other dog had hold of its neck :confused:

    Chances are I would too, IF it had happened on my own property.
     
  2. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup

    I've read the same, how if in pursuit of a suspect they can do that, which isn't right.
     
  3. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    I'm sorry, my error.

    How hard would it have been for these "handlers" to grab the dog's back legs? I'm sure when these handlers go for their own training, this is taught to them, no? It is one way to break up a dog fight.

    If these owners take this to court, they will win their case.
     
  4. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog


    She misunderstood...she thought you were referring to the K-9 having a hold of the PB, in which case the command would be "OUT"...but in this situation the PB had hold of the K-9, the PB should have had his wind removed and the dogs could have been seperataed quite effectively. BTW K-9 handlers should have working knowledge of all dog breeds their dogs may face.....
     
  5. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog


    Don't ever grab a PB by the rear legs...the PB will not distract to what is grabbing his legs like a guardian will, you will simply drag what ever the PB has in his mouth with the PB....you seperate a PB at the head and you can cuz they will be fixated on what they have in their mouth and not you....
     
  6. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup

    I don't think anyone would be doubting the police were the only ones to blame if the attack had happened on the dogs own property while it was properly contained, But as the dog left its unsecured property to attack the other dog, Why isn't the owner accepting his part of the blame in what happened?
     
  7. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    Thank you. :) Learn something new every day.

    Also, I believe these police handlers should carry breaksticks and learn how to use them.
     
  8. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup


    So if... One cop grabbed ahold of the GSD and held it still while the other cop grabbed the PB by the back of the neck until it released that would have been how to do it? :confused:
     
  9. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog


    The owner should. But how two professional dog handlers ever allowed a loose dog to get at theirs is beyond me...there were two of them. The police ARE the ones to blame...they had a responsibility to their own dog and the public and they dropped the ball. THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED!!!! "ROOKIE DOG HANDLERS IN YOUR BACK YARD...WATCH OUT!!!!!!!"
     
  10. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    I would have had one of the handlers step away from the K-9 with leash tight, the other grab the PBs collar and twist until the PBs air was cut off (pulling away from the K-9 slightly) and lift his front paws slightly off the ground, when the PB went for a breath the dogs should with the opposing tension on each easily seperated. Hopefully the handler could subdue the PB, if not release the twist but keep his paws off the ground and drag him back to his yard or a place they could close him in.
     
  11. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup



    That was my point, IMO both sides have take their own share of the blame, The police for how they handled everything and the owner for not having control of his dog.
    It just sits wrong how the owner thinks he's blameless in it all.
     
  12. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    If the handlers forewarned the property owners that a training session was taking place, this would of never happened.

    Since they did not, the handlers should of been trained on how to use breaksticks and how to properly break up a fight without having to kill a dog. Not only to ensure the safety of other dogs, but their own dog too. K-9s are very expensive animals. Honestly, I really don't think these handlers knew what the hell they were doing.

    This starts with the incompetence on the handler's part on so many levels. Unfortunately, a family pet had to die because of it. I hope they sue.
     
  13. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog


    agreed!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    Homeowners should also have the ability to opt out of the training exercise route. If I had a yard full of animals, maybe cats of chickens, I sure as heck wouldn't want a dog with inexperienced handlers running through.

    (Hey it just started snowing in here!) [​IMG]
     
  15. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup

    It "may" not of happened, there are a lot of what if's and should have's.

    But when it comes down to it, the dog left its property to attack, If the dog hadn't have died odd's are the owner would be already charged with having a dog at large as he broke the law for failing to have his dog contained or on a leash when the attack happened.
    As the dog had open access to the street it could have easily happened on the sidewalk or road in front of the dogs house instead of on the neighbours yard.

    Chances are if the case makes it to BC courts, the owners aren't going to win.
     
  16. Mama2

    Mama2 Pup


    Make it stop! lol
     
  17. HighCoastHiker

    HighCoastHiker Top Dog

    Isn't it about time you stopped trying to defend what was in fact a colossal screw-up by trigger-happy cops?

    What everyone else seems to understand and you seem to be trying to gloss over is that the dog did not leave "its yard."

    Clearly, legally, unfortunately the dog was not within the legally defined boundaries of its owners' property when it was shot and killed by the over-reacting pants-pisser with the uniform on and the safety off.

    However, the dog was in the SHARED YARD, and according to all I have seen, this was a customary and agreed-upon arrangement between the owners/residents of both properties. The dog did not escape. The dog did not run loose. Too bad the dog didn't understand real estate/property law when it decided to defend the yard it has apparently played in freely until Dumb, Dumber and their dog trespassed in.

    So please, we get it. The dog wasn't under enough control to prevent it being shot by an idiot who felt free to walk into someones' yard with a dog, but without warning or warrant. We understand, really. The cops have a legal excuse for their borderline illegal and wholly immoral behavior.
    They'll get away with this. After all, it was only some family's pet pit bull, and they appear to be from the wrong socio-economic group to have any hope of getting a simple apology, much less justice. We get it. Some of us more than others.
     
  18. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    They will win. :) And if the don't, I'll buy you a cup of coffee....
     
  19. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    You are right it may or may not have happened, but at least the PD would have fulfilled it's responsibility to the public. No PB should be loose. And had that owner been informed and he still let his dog run loose their would BE NO question, now there always will be...and the PD should be held to a higher standard IMO.

    33 where is it snowing and is it coming to nj.....feeling sick to my stomach at the thought
     
  20. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    Absolutely.

    Snow? where? please, no snow.....
     

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