Big Pits.....

True..big dogs lack the stamina of a smaller dog but that doesnt mean they dont have stamina..its just differren t than smaller dogs who would be able to run circles around a bigger dog.

Big dogs can go just at their own pace. Its still stamina Thats why dogs hunt according to weight. To say a big dog will lay down in 10 minutes well. Against asmaller dog.. yes they would but against a big hog of equal weight..not necassarily. They just go at their own pace. it might be slow but it would be steady.

its like comparing distance runners to sprinters. A Sprinter and a sprinter could run against each other all day long but a sprinter and a distnact runner..well, the distant runner (generally a much leaner lighter person) would run the sprinter into the ground.


To breed a dog strickly for size is not right on any level ..but dont confuse that with a dog that pops up big every now and again. Plently of good big dogs like Colbys Pinscher and a few others were out there.

Here's another "big" dog. 60 pounds..a bit chunky in the picture though.

 

I don't see how these "pits" can be pits being so big. a true pit weighs somewhere around 27 to 68 tops. others are to big they are probably AMSTAFS?

 

I see alot of people who say they are breeders and they have these blue and blue brindled pits. when a pit has blue in him, he is really an amstaff. totally separate breed. that would be a show quality dog not game.

 

I think it depends..if you are breeding strickly for COLOR then yes..you have a point but if you are breeding for other traits, then no. Just because a dog has some blue in it doesnt make it not game or a bad dog. People may not view it as a pure APBT and can think about it whatever they choose to ..but when it all boils down to it, its the abilities of the dog.

There are plenty of pure APBTs off of great lines that have done nothing. And plenty of people use these lines and names as n excuse to breed, too.


LOL.. certain lines are known to have hound dog in them. I dont see anyone running around calling that one out..

 

I agree rock. Also I would love to see someone go tell J.L. of Southern Bulldogs that his pits are staff LOL. He has several well over the 70 LBS mark and thats not chain weight either.

PLEASE DON'T POST FOLKS NAMES ON THE BOARD....BB

 

just wanted to say I like your Bowzer .. Man thats a nicely built dog!!

 

Actually..some of the older Watchdog lines proved to be some good game dogs.

Watchdog Damien and even Gr CH Blue Bully was one heck of a dog.

I wouldnt consdier any of the current Watchdog blood to be game bred but the dog I have is definelty game and after taking down a 60 pound hog when shes only 45 pounds ,almost getting her face ripped off and she kept going like it was nothing (bad kennel accident..and shes my housedog lol) She is only about 25% and you have to go back about 4/ 5 gens on her dam's side (her dam was a blue and one heck of a dog.. otherwise she would have been in the dirt)

As far as her producing.. that remains to be seen. But Her other littermates have been tried and tested and they have also been producing some excellent prosepcts.

But I certainly would never ever bring her back into blues or watchdogs..and its going to be alot harder in breeding her and checking the pups.

 

Maloney dogs tend to be relatively large.

 

yeah my buddy has nice size male check him out on www.sipitbulls.com mike is the owner and shower of both his dogs.

 

yeah my friends male Colby is a baby now the bitch is another story.they are both big dogs. =rocksteady]True..big dogs lack the stamina of a smaller dog but that doesnt mean they dont have stamina..its just differren t than smaller dogs who would be able to run circles around a bigger dog.

Big dogs can go just at their own pace. Its still stamina Thats why dogs hunt according to weight. To say a big dog will lay down in 10 minutes well. Against asmaller dog.. yes they would but against a big hog of equal weight..not necassarily. They just go at their own pace. it might be slow but it would be steady.

its like comparing distance runners to sprinters. A Sprinter and a sprinter could run against each other all day long but a sprinter and a distnact runner..well, the distant runner (generally a much leaner lighter person) would run the sprinter into the ground.


To breed a dog strickly for size is not right on any level ..but dont confuse that with a dog that pops up big every now and again. Plently of good big dogs like Colbys Pinscher and a few others were out there.

Here's another "big" dog. 60 pounds..a bit chunky in the picture though.[/QUOTE]

 

Not all things are black and white, I wouldn't say that statement is 100% accurate, there are some big dogs with plenty of stamina, and there are some little dogs, including a 31lb bitch I know of, that has very little "stamina".

A big dog will lay down in 10mins against a smaller dog??? You serious??? The problem with a big dog on a little dog is the little dog is pushing too much weight and has to work extra hard to do anything, if that big dog is half way decent, hes got an easy job picking on that lil dog...kinda like a bully at school whooping up on some smaller kids....

Good dogs are where ya find them, no matter the weight...a modern example of a good big dog...CH Grunt 4xw, GR CH Mayday...

BB

 

well i hate to tell ya i got show gammer then.yeah you are right there is some amstaff in there.

 

Hello, I adopted my Pit Bull from a shelter, she was rescued from an abusive drunk man. Right now she is 5 mos and weights 40lbs??? I am not sure if she will be big though??? This is my first pit and I love her to death. Your boy is HUGE!!!! I love all dogs of whatever shape and size. I wish I could see a pic.

 

way to go!!!thanks fo saving that dog.you are in for a real treat if this is your first pit.either you'll love it so much you'd get another or give that one away.sounds like ya like her,feed her good and love that bitch like no other and the reward is much sweeter.

 

people always say if its that big it has to be a staff, well I always thought a staff was supposed to be 40-65lbs. Maybe there is something else going on.

 

Nice looking Staff's......

 

I just wanted to comment on the statements made about the standard sizes of ABPT's and get some opinions on this:

If you keep breeding the larger pups out of a litter eventually the dogs will get larger and larger whether you mix in AM STAFF blood or not... I'm not saying in two generations you'll go from a 40lb'er to a 90lb'er, but through a few generations the dogs will increase in size.

Any opinions on this??


puregame

 

No some pits can be large, ie; Colby's Pinscher who was 72 lbs I believe. But genearally pits should run closer to the low 30-45 lb. range as they did in the good ol' days. JMO You might be confusing APBT, Staffordshire Terrier, and American Staffordshire Terrier. Generally, AmStafs run bigger than APBT's which generally run bigger than Staffies.

 

trust me, I know the difference. Check most breed books. Im not sure of the exact weights of amstaffs but they are not SUPPOSED to get 100lbs and over. I believe somewhere between 45-65lbs. Watch dog shows, none of the amstaffs on there are over 65lbs. There are many breeds a person could cross w/ apbt's and still somewhat resemble apbt's other than size.

 

I stand corrected. the weight I just found is 50-75lbs. That doesnt justify 100lb+ dogs. It is my opinion that a well bred amstaff should resemble an apbt in APPEARANCE. I might add I am not a fan of amstaffs, just dont think they are supposed to be that big either.