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Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by AGK, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    I only feed the chicken to keep the teeth clean so no real calorie counting if they look skinny I ad extra if they start getting fat i skip a day or less for a day
     
  2. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    Grabbed a bag of victor. TSC whacked me over the head. $61.45 for 40lbs.... I generally pay 51 and change for the Valu pak. I was lazy and didn't want to drive to the feed store 45 min away. Told myself if it last as long I'll switch over. Then if I get a wild hair to put one in shape I won't have to buy 2 different feeds.... if I could get a plug on pro plan I would clean up and get to quit my job lol. That shit has jumped $30 a bag in 2 years and everyone around me is thirsty as hell for it.
     
  3. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    I will say tsc vs the feed store its feed store all day. The old lady at my feed store and her husband had WELL bred bulldogs back when only certain folks owned bulldogs. I'll stand in there and bs with her for 20 min. The old lady and tsc trying to sell me rawhide chews after making me wait for 10 min to be checked out pisses me off lol.
     
  4. Wildrose

    Wildrose Pup

    I actually just made the switch to dry feed 2 weeks ago, pro plan was definitely one I had my eye on but I can't justify the price for a food with corn in it. I know a lot of guys use it as a keep base maybe one day I will get the notion to give it a go. Ended up going with a brand called Open Farm, liked what I seen on the ingredients list and hopefully the dogs thrive well on it. So far they have been smashing the chains hard at feed time so I am happy for now.
     
  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    For the most part a dog will eat whatever is put in front of him. The dogs will seldom thrive on dry food. Evolution has built an incredible animal because the bulldog can both look and perform admirably from just about anything.

    It is a survive and thrive approach. The dog will survive on corn flakes and cabbage but he will not thrive on the same thing.

    When we switch foods and factor in price (as stated I am the cheapest mofo, maybe on the planet, but definitely on this board) we often feel good and "see positive results" mostly because it gives us the warm fuzzies and having the warm fuzzies is really important.

    I feed cheap ass hunting dog food called Buddy Boy (but as of late the cheap ass food in over $30 a 50lb bag). It is convenient and on my way home from work without having to go into town. I add whatever meat products that are on sale (no rhyme nor reason in the decision only cost and availability). During seer season my dogs start to think they were born to be deer hounds not bulldogs. My favorite hunters are the "horns and backstrap hunters" because it leaves a lot of meat for my dogs.

    Your last sentence is by far the most important, "I am happy for now".

    S
     
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  6. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    For the guys that have had serious conversations with me about feed program know it's very high on my list of important factors. You can literally give all the nutrients for them to thrive on in or out of conditioning. Feeding raw you can literally get away with Feeding oz's and doing it 24 or 48 not conditioning. The price yall are paying 60+ 40lb bag of kibble you can get 80lb frozen leg 1/4 and enough organ pieces to add and get a almost complete feed program that surpass any kibble out.
     
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  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Very true. I paid $37 for 40lbs of chicken backs last week.

    I am not sure I have ever had a feed program outside of working. I have fed everything and anything over the years.

    Once I had a couple three half sheets of plywood I moved from spot to spot so I could feed the 55 gallon drums of peanut butter by the shovel full. Even got hooked up with 55 gallon drums of chicken feet once. My best deal ever was when I rented a house in Chesapeake/Pungo area near Va. Beach from a butcher. I got his box of scraps every day. The dogs got whatever came out of the box as I walked by.

    I went a stretch where I got eggs from a hen house that were not fertile. 10-12 dozen a day. Some days I would walk by and bust six or eight in the bowl and never once had a dog ask for scrambled.

    I have always factored in price and time til 10 weeks or so before work then I switch to 'keep type feed'.

    What these dogs will survive on and then perform well is one of their most amazing attributes. At times, I am the shithead bulldog owner who takes advantage of this attribute and then get completely anal 10 weeks or so from work .

    How people feed these dogs is one of my favorite subjects.

    S





     
  8. Wildrose

    Wildrose Pup

    [QUOTE="slim12, post: 821571, member: 3011"
    When we switch foods and factor in price (as stated I am the cheapest mofo, maybe on the planet, but definitely on this board) we often feel good and "see positive results" mostly because it gives us the warm fuzzies and having the warm fuzzies is really important.
    S[/QUOTE]
    I like that you pointed this out, I can completely agree with this statement. I like feeling good about what I am feeding my dogs hence why I came from feeding raw for the past 10 years. Complete control of the diet down to the quantity and quality of each component. Unfortunately sources come and go and as of late we have been seeing astronomical price increases up here and just generally becoming more difficult to sustain a growing yard on raw. I will leave that for when I am putting one in shape now....Luckily we are blessed with hunting season Sept-Dec here so that lessens the need to purchase meat. Crazy how fast you can go through a whitetail deer with 5 dogs and myself eating it. We got limits of 8 Geese/Ducks per day so it makes for a fun few months letting it rain birds and bringing back fresh feathery dog food that only costed me a shotgun shell :D

    Back to the point, I can admit I have most likely fallen for the marketing ploys with the commercial dog food. You walk in that store and I am walking down aisles of "Grain-free" "Natural" "Legume free" "wild-diet" "performance super food" The list goes on and on and man those packages are meant to catch a guys eye LOL. Like I said I am indeed happy for now but nothing is forever and things will always change.
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Accepting change is one of the best attributes a person can have not only in the dogs, but life in general.

    Change may be the only thing that is constant. LOL

    As stated, I have fed everything and anything to keep the dogs up. A lot of times it was not the best I could do but it was cheap and convenient, which factors a lot for me.

    I try no to speak ill of the dead, but Jami Long is an easy target. My apologies upfront.

    He wrote volumes on the internet about feeding dogs. Raw feeds and supplementation and how he built super dogs thru feed and work. I mean to the point he could have invented feeding bulldogs. I never knew Jami Long and I went to his house to buy an American Bulldog and when he opened the door the new Jami Long was the old Max Coates.

    Separate story altogether but when we got off the AB's and got on the pit dogs he took me to his garage and showed me Uno with a litter of puppies off Big Momma. (for time dating)

    He did not notice that I noticed the six bags of Ol' Roy from Walmart and the Ol' Roy puppy feed in the platter with the puppies.

    What I never do is talk about the incredible way I feed dogs and then in reality, I am a lot closer to corn flakes and cabbage than I am to an all-world primo diet.

    I am sure I looked like a re-re with a shovel full of peanut butter or a shovel full of chicken feet feeding 'performance dogs' but at the time it worked. I don't think I ever harmed one or killed one with my feed choices. Maybe they did not all completely thrive but it has worked for a really long time.

    Always intereste din how people feed their dogs.

    S
     
  10. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Yes very different indeed. I personally don't believe in much of a off season if any at all. Once we build a race car and tune it for methanol we ain't going back to 93. But it ain't like we ever had a big stable of cars to begin with only what we would load up and take to the track. No sense in a garage full of trailer queens. I may not line up much these days but the tanks will always be full of methanol just in case lol
     
  11. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Great approach and great analogy.

    Sort of a coincidence. My Pops had drag cars while I was growing up.

    His favorite cars over the years were the ones he street raced. You could put pump gas in them all week then got to 108 octane and 10" slicks and put on a show on some stretch of road in the middle of nowhere late Saturday night.

    Speaking of analogies maybe that is how I learned to feed dogs. LOL Go figure.

    S
     
  12. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog


    I have really considered going the raw route. I guess it's part laziness and part "I've seen this work why fuck with the formula" with me.

    It's sooooo easy to grab that bucket handle and toss a few scoops out. Thats the laziness.

    Honestly in keep everyone around me feeds and supplements almost identically. I guess that's where the don't fuck with the formula comes in lol
     
  13. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog


    A SUPER prominent breeder in your area who whacks folks over the head for pups, sups, and anything else he can milk the dogs for buys the camo bag of Ole roy by the pallet lol.

    I've seen the $100,000 puppy whelping area ND the pallet of Ole Roy lol
     
  14. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    I'm doing the slim babbling but some years ago I was buying food by the drum from a buddy. He got the "scraps" from a food mill.

    We'd go one time it was bags of evolution kibble next run it a big makeshift cardboard container on a pallet of whatever hit the floor and got swept up. We all felt real good when it was bags of evolution and a little bummed when it was the makeshift box. I promise you 4 yards fed whatever was in the shed to be sold and not a single dog complained
     
  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    I hear ya bro. The single best advice with the dogs I ever got was actually from a member of this fourm Mike norrod. It was " just grow and you will excel" that has stuck in my head ever since.
     
  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    We had a similar deal here some year back as there is a Mars/IAMS plant here.

    We all know a guy. Well, this guy hooked up with his guy (and funny how things work).

    The bags that had misprinted labels or damaged went onto pallets that were dispositioned to the local animal shelters. The hardest bags for them to use were the bags destined for Asia, as believe it or not, their "FDA" "USDA" is way more stringent than ours. These bags have to be perfect.

    When they were not the trucks made a pit stop on the way to the local animal shelters.

    We were buying IAMS/Eukanuba for $10 per 40LB bag. I could not read the labelling but neither could my dogs.

    Walked in a small farm house once and a 12X14 bedroom had barely a walk way thru the middle and the entire room was a solid cube of dog food from the floor to the ceiling.

    I rode that bus til the fell as well.

    S
     
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  17. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Yeah it has gone up alot to the point where i might looking at a few different brands
     
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  18. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Victor has gone up and I don't believe the quality as good as it once was.
     
  19. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    What u chucking out to them these days?
     
  20. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog


    If you find something reasonable let me know.

    I may just have to break down buy a deep freeze, a vacuum sealer and start meal prepping for the pups like B.B. keeps urging lol
     
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