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Liquid Ivomec

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Michael., Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    I was just wondering if this is still a good option for heartworm preventative. I was about to buy a bottle and do the 1/10 of 1cc for every 10lbs of body weight. I saw the paste but am more comfortable with liquid, as I never know if the ivomec is evenly distributed, and measuring isn't as accurate (to me) with paste as oppposed to liquid. I ask because the 34$ bottle at TSC will last a hell of a lot longer than the 60$/month vet stuff. Anyone still use this?
     
  2. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    The dosage for ivermectin (Ivomec) is very often misquoted. The recommendation to give 0.1cc per 10 pounds of dog, that is most commonly recommended, is way overdosing. In fact, the correct dosage of ivermectin 1% for heartworm prevention is much less than 0.1cc (one-tenth of a cc) per 10 pounds of dog. A 25-pound dog only needs 0.068cc (which is 68 hundredths of a cc, or 68/100cc) of Ivermectin, according to the amount of the drug in Heartgard, and a 50-pound dog needs just 0.1cc - NOT 0.5cc, which is what you would give if you were dosing 1/10cc per 10 pounds of dog! This means that the correct dosage of ivermectin 1% for heartworm prevention in dogs is actually closer to 0.02cc (2 hundredths of a cc, or 2/100cc) per 10 pounds. That's a huge difference! If you get a syringe that only holds 1 cc, and is marked off in tenths, with tick-marks between each tenth, it's not that difficult to draw up the right amount of liquid, because each little tick-mark is one hundredth of a cc. It really can't be done with a syringe that is made to hold more than 1 cc, though, because of the very small amount of liquid that you need. Good Luck.
    KOS
     
  3. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    ...infromative post Stratman,,, I wish I could have got a direct answer like that back in the day when I acquired...
    ...thats all we need to know,,, thread closed,,, lmao...
     
  4. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    Thanks! That is crazy that after all of this time I am hearing this, especially after hearing the 1/10 of 1cc per 10lbs from pretty much everyone including breeders.

    So with the .068cc, how much would a 30lb dog get? A 100lb dog? if it is 68/100cc for a 25lb dog, what is the CC for every 10 pounds? That will be easier to understand.

    EDIT:
    Sorry I re-read. So it is 2/10th of 1cc per 10lbs of body weight?
     
  5. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    So you are saying that a 100lb dog would get 2cc, and a 30lb dog would get .6cc?
     
  6. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    Good info.. I'll stick to what has been working all these years for me.
     
  7. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    No, I believe you forgot to divide the dogs weight by 10 first.
    0.02 cc per 10 lbs of weight.
    1st- divide dogs weight by 10
    2nd- multiply divided weight by 0.02

    3 x 0.02 = 0.06 cc (not 0.6)
    10 x 0.02 = 0.2 cc (not 2.0 cc)
    for in between weights I round up.
    Ex: My a 32-33 Lb gyp requires 0.064 cc. I round her weight up to 35 Lb
    So I give her 0.070 cc orally/monthly 3.5 x 0.02 = 0.07 cc
    I have a 46-48 Lb male I round up to 50 Lb
    He gets 0.1cc orally/monthly 10 x 0.02 =0.1 cc

    KOS
     
  8. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    CORRECTION
    He gets 0.1cc orally/monthly 10 x 0.02 =0.1 cc should be
    He gets 0.1cc orally/monthly 5 x 0.02 =0.1 cc
    KOS

    Can anyone explain why there is only a two minuet window for correcting a post?
     
  9. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    Ah haha confusing. Now I am worried to give it. This totally threw me off haha
     
  10. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    Where at on this syringe is where it woudl be for 35lb? I am so nervous now, never had issues before. But want to be safe and do it right. Not sure why this is so confusing to me now, but it is.
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    for 0.064, woudl that just be almost "7 ticks" from the bottom?
     
  11. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    I just eyeball it
     
  12. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    Relax it is no big deal if you give a higher dose it's just not needed. Multiply 3.5 x .02 = 0 .07 or 7/100th of 1.0cc
    You have a 1.0 cc syringe in the picture but I can't tell how many ticks are between the numbers. How many ticks (lines) between empty up to the number 10? Are there 10 on the other side of that syringe? Then it is 7 ticks (not to the number 70) It will be less than the 10 which is .10 cc's on that syringe.
    I hope this helps because i don't know how to explain any other way.
    KOS
     
  13. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    Hey thank you!
     
  14. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    Your Welcome
     
  15. tigerboy5

    tigerboy5 Big Dog

    Just continue to give your dogs 0.1cc per 10lbs of body weight. While it may be an excessive amount for heart worm prevention it is not excessive for the many other treatments and preventions of parasites it is used for.
     
  16. Torresbeag

    Torresbeag Big Dog


    Is the correct dosage for a mange infection .3cc per 10lb?
     
  17. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    The correct dose for heartworm prevention is 0.006mg per kilogram. So let's say you have a 50pd dog. His correct dose of Ivermectin for Heartworms would be 0.13mg. The concentration of the 1% Solution that you buy is 10mg per cc/ml. Which breaks down to 1mg per 1/10cc/ml. So you are giving 5mg (0.5ml/cc) and you only need 0.13mg to cover Heartworms. So you are already giving 38.4 times more needed. However as you can see per the Plumbs below giving the 1/10 cc/ml per 10pds you will cover intestinal parasites as well. The 200mcg (0.2mg)/kg.

    I have only used the ivermectin once a month for the last year. Since I work in the field I do yearly bloodwork and fecals every 6 months. I do not use another dewormer. Except if I had a litter.

    For the past 8 years I lived in the Panhandle if FL. Which everything nasty is here. I will admit that I have used free samples from the drug reps as well. But also have used Ivermectin as well.

    From the Plumbs Veterinary Formulary
     
  18. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Oh my bad that was not written by me lol , I just quoted it and posted it because of its good info.
     
  19. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    There are two types of mange, demodectic mange (demodex) and sarcoptic mange (scabies). The dosage is different depending on which form you are treating as well as the schedule that it is given. (@35 -100 times the dose used for Heartworm prevention) It's important to have an accurate diagnosis prior to treatment, especially for demodex by your Vet.
     
  20. Michael.

    Michael. Big Dog

    Thanks! So that will not harm the dog in any way?
     

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