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Im about to buy a Butkus x Razors edge pup?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by ohav4, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. Big Papa

    Big Papa CH Dog

    i guess hes doing that just to make it look more game but he stupid if hes doing that
     
  2. simms

    simms CH Dog

    I have to agree, I don't see the point of breeding outside of the standard of the gamedog...the American Pitbull Terrier.

    Close the cirle folks.


    Regards.
     
  3. DarkStar

    DarkStar Pup

    this is what you get if you get if you go to Mugleston's Pitbull farm​
    notice the blank spots in the ped SH*T EATER NO TELLING WHAT'S IN THIS DOG BACKGROUND ALSO NOTICE GOTTI'S IN THE BACKGROUND IF YOU DO SOME INDEPH RESEARCH YOU WILL NOTICE THAT GOTTI AND THE REST OF THEM GREYLINE SH*T EATERS COME FROM WATCHDOG NOW IF YOU DO RESEARCH ON WATCHDOG PEDS YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE A LOT AND I MEAN ALOT OF AKC CHAMPION STAFF IN THE BACKGROUND AND THAT GOES FOR NEW TROJAN ALSO THIS IS JUST A MALE LETS CHECK OUT A FEMALE
    Pedigree Blue Boogie Monster
    <TABLE id=table2 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="85%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">I</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">II</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="34%">III</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>Lobo</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>Chaos Blue Tigger</TD><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>Tiger Lilly</TD><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>China Monster</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>Top Doggs Monster</TD><TD width="34%">PR Notorious Juan Gotti</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>PR Barajas China</TD><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
    A FEMALE Mugleston's Lil' Girl Shortshot RAZOR EDGE WAS ONCE A AKC STAFF CHAMPION BLOODLINE SOME EVEN SAY THAT THERE IS A LIL PESA CANO BLENDED IN THE BACKGROUND AND WE ALL KNOW PESA ARE HEAVY DOGS THAT LOOK ALLMOST LIKE PITS
    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="85%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">I</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">II</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="34%">III</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>Razor's Edge America's Most Wanted</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>CLP'S Razedge Shortshot</TD><TD width="34%">Razor's Edge Nevils Buckshot</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">CH Razor's Edge Inna Rage</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>CLP's Razedge Diamond</TD><TD width="34%">"PR" Razorsedge Trueblue's Gloryboy</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">Razor's Edge Lil Blue Koala</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>Razor's Edge I ain't Mad At Cha</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>"PR" Razors Edge Trueblue's Gloryboy</TD><TD width="34%">CH Razor's Edge Ed's Call Him Lil Man</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">Razor's Edge Tequilla Sunrise</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>Razor's Edge Lil Blue Koala</TD><TD width="34%">Cloverhills Watuka Spirit</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">GRCH Razor's Edge Sadeys Paddington</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
    LOOK UP ALL THESE DOGS AND YOU WILL FIND AKC STAFF BLOOD AND SOME OF IT WAS BAD BLOOD AT THAT
    Mugleston's Gracie

    <TABLE id=table2 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="85%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">I</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="33%">II</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="34%">III</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>"PR" NOTORIOUS JUAN GOTTY</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>"PR" Gray Line's Raider II</TD><TD width="34%">"PR" Chain Gang Barney</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">"PR" Tony's Showtme</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>"PR" Gray Line's Calee Love Bluegood</TD><TD width="34%">"PR" Grey Line's Raider II</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">"PR" Tees New mercy</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=4>"PR" Bitar's Miss Crush A lot</TD><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>CH Razor's Edge Ed's Call Him Lil' Man</TD><TD width="34%">GRCH "PR" Bedrocks Romeo Of Black Pearl</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">Razor's Edge Sapphire Lil'</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%" rowSpan=2>Razor's Edge Tequilla Sunrise</TD><TD width="34%">Razor's Edge Forever Junior</TD></TR><TR><TD width="34%">CH Razor's Edge Inna Rage</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​

    SO WITH THAT BEING SAID Mugleston's IS PRODUCING TRASH NOT TRUE APBT
     
  4. simms

    simms CH Dog

    Darkstar,

    Most Breeders today are producing trash dogs. If you dont breed to standard of the gamedog then you are breeding trash dogs....showdogs, there should be NO deviation to the standard of the gamedog, yet "MOST" everyone that deals in the show standard seems to make this excuse as this has become the politicly correct copout....to breed shiteaters.

    Prefferd look as oposed to function,
     
  5. lockjaw

    lockjaw CH Dog

    i went to a bandogge kennel here in brazil and to call razors edge a bandog is an insult to bandogges..i would take a bandog over razors edge any day..take a look not saying there great still mutts.but better than razors edge....http://www.negociorural.com.br/bandog/index2.html
     
  6. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    I just bought a Gotti x Razors Edge pup. Couldn't resist, he was too beautiful. Razors Edge dogs are always huge from what I've seen. The guy I got mine from is working on posting a ped. The sire of my pup comes from do-goods "Smokey" The mother is from Ice Age kennels who is working on getting a site real soon. I'll post more info with pics in my gallery later. It's just nice to have a dog with some type of history to revert to.

    http://www.dogoodkennel.com/breeding.html
     
  7. findrodhere

    findrodhere Top Dog

    To each his own, but damn.

    What is history you want to revert to??
     
  8. DarkStar

    DarkStar Pup

    [​IMG] Re: Im about to buy a Butkus x Razors edge pup?


    <HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I just bought a Gotti x Razors Edge pup. Couldn't resist, he was too beautiful. Razors Edge dogs are always huge from what I've seen. The guy I got mine from is working on posting a ped. The sire of my pup comes from do-goods "Smokey" The mother is from Ice Age kennels who is working on getting a site real soon. I'll post more info with pics in my gallery later. It's just nice to have a dog with some type of history to revert to.


    http://www.dogoodkennel.com/breeding.html
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    Blue with White
    This is "Zeus", and like his name sake, he is a very important guy.
    Sweet as can be and very spoiled, this guy carries a beautiful head piece and has a laid back personality.

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="95%" border=2><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=4><CENTER>PEDIGREE</CENTER>





    </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="25%">Parents</TD><TD align=middle width="25%">Grandparents</TD><TD align=middle width="25%">Gr. Grandparents</TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan=4>[​IMG]Do Good's Smokey </TD><TD rowSpan=2>'PR' Do Goods I'm Blue Too </TD><TD>'PR' Westbrook's Comacho Do Good </TD></TR><TR><TD>'PR' Peterson's NTK Pretty Pearl</TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan=2>ABLEPAWS Wht Kums Arnd Gos Arnd </TD><TD>ABLEPAWS Fell Into Bleach</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gaff's Special Edition Of Blackfire</TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan=4>[​IMG]Ablepaws Something To Prove </TD><TD rowSpan=2>Unchnd Immortals Whos The Boss </TD><TD>Demonio Chato Jiron's</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gaffs Immortal Chyna 4 Ever Unchnd</TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan=3>Gaff's Special Edition Of Blackfire </TD><TD>CH Gaff's Limited Edition</TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan=2>Gaffs Little Mattie Skrams</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>SEE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN THOSE GAFFS DOG ARE AMSTAFF AND SO ARE THE ABLE PAWS DOGS WHAT DO YOU WANT MANN A TRUE APBT OR A KNOCKOFF CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT NICE PUP BUT NOT TRUE APBT
     
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  9. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    Just to look back and know that my dog, like me, has ancestors. Just because it's not what some consider a "pit bull" doesn't mean it does or doesn't deserve a ped. I understand where you're coming from though. Besides he's a beautiful dog and will be worth something and I'll prove his gameness in weight pulling.
     
  10. DarkStar

    DarkStar Pup

    TRUE THAT YOUR DOG HAS NO TRUE GAME DOG HISTORY ALL AKC ALL THE TIME
     
  11. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Good luck proving his gameness doing that.
     
  12. simms

    simms CH Dog

    HOOK LINE AND SINKER.

    That aint NO bulldog....LOL

    I got to ask you, have you got in touch with any of the local clubs here in North Texas?

    The only thing that you will prove with that dog is wether or not he can pull...that's it. It won't merit his "worth"
     
  13. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    Amstaff, Pit bull, American bulldog it really doesn't matter to me they all look the same and have many of the same tendacies. I understand this is game-dog.com so having a dog related to what you consider a game-dog is fine with me. I'm not picky. This question is for everyone who opposes any dog related to a "true APBT".....

    You ask me why would I want to own a dog that resembles a "true Apbt". I'll answer this way. Why would you want to own a dog that is considered game but it's illegal to prove your dogs gameness. Not all traits are always inherited. Only way to test gameness nowadays are sporting events so lets not start the history lessons on the bs topic about how game your dog is because of history unless you do what is illegal. Shut up and pull!
     
  14. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Why have a Ferrari when you can get a build-it-yourself kit to put over that Cavalier chassis? It's what's inside that counts. If you can't understand that, then quite honestly, you really have no reason owning an APBT. They weren't bred for looks, and the Staff and American Bulldog does not have what makes an APBT an APBT.
     
  15. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    From what I've read an APBT is a game-dog and if your dog aint game then it aint an APBT. I personally can say that any dog I ever own I will never know if it is game because I won't test it. I believe my dogs can show me that same drive in weight pulling and agility.
     
  16. Ok my male is all Razors Edge. I love him to death and he has an awesome temperament. However, he has no drive, is lazy, oversized, and has had FHO surgery for hip dysplasia on his left hip and we are praying the right hip holds up. All of this by the age of 18 months. Then there is the allergies. I don't even want to get into what that has cost us. Again, I love my boy and wouldn't trade him for the world but he is a couch potato. Thats my take on the RE dogs.
     
  17. simms

    simms CH Dog

    No your dogs cant, for one thing they are bred away from the gamedog. For another you have NO IDEA what it takes to shape and condition a dog let alone know if the dog is a prospect .....in other words you hope that you will beable to compete with your dog.

    Your dogs lack the tools due to thier own genetics....

    Answer this if you dare.....did this joker tell you that this pup was gonna be all you needed as far as competeing did they promise you that he will be worthy of breeding, in lue of that ped?

    You got NO IDEA, the only thing you can do is hope that you didn't piss away that money you spent on that dog.

    Have you contacted any of the clubs here in North Texas?
     
  18. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    Wait a minute.......you would have to be in my household to know if I worked my dogs or not and the only a$$hole here is me and any dog I ever own won't be worthless. My girl I got now aint no lazy bitch. You better know before you go boy. Dont be poppin off at the mouth and have no clue what I'm doing over here. You'll know if or when I tell. I sure as hell don't want to be a part of any club you visit. Why would I want to be in the same with your stereotypes and others? F**K that and you!
     
  19. simms

    simms CH Dog


    Stereo types...LOL

    Well you typed your self, hell you love hangin your ass out there.

    Your dogs may be good for you, but on a serious level....your not gonna beable to compete.

    See ya at the shows...
     
  20. Doggystyle

    Doggystyle Big Dog

    You're right I'm the type that loves any bully breed dog. My ass is out for you to kiss it now. BTW, my new pup will pull weights when he is mature. As far as competing, if he can or can't doesn't matter because he will be pulling weights either way.
     

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