Coleman's ch Sam (the Sam with the mutilated mouth)info please.

Hope someone can give some info on him or dogs off of him (I already know ped) but dont know much other than he got his lips completely removed and that he was taken in a raid by the law. I got a pup to be a house dog for my kids who is the most laid back dog ever.My pup (Tater)is a double bred off Sam from a brother/sis breeding(Sawyer's Savage Sam and Sawyer's Jezzebel,they are out of OGK Tebow to Coleman' SpitFire.I only have the short ped right now but most of the dogs are from Mr (Willy) Coleman. There is a bitch dog Coleman's SlimShady and TrickDaddy in particular cause they are in short ped a few times. The other dog is OGK (WildSide's Stompanato).It looks like the Coleman dogs go back to WildSide.My other dogs (3) go back to a son of Hellraiser (Denny's OJ)since I bred my females him years ago, and back again. I ll try to figure out how to post a ped and photo, but for now I would like to know more about these dogs, a pic or two would be appreciated and PLEASE if anyone knows of the Coleman dogs being people biters (by nature)let me know as that is my ONLY deal-breaker, I have to say that I couldnt have bred or asked for a better one for my sons, to have there very own dog and maybe even take him to a show sometime. Sorry for the rambling, Thanks in advance.

 

Willie use to breed with pat mc the monsterman stuff. Dopeman was a good producer that came from tommy w. Sam wasnt bred that much and i rember your litter that was the first time i seen him. He wanted to cross into hus tabacco road dogs. The best dog on his yard was a bitch named momma that was from jerry nelson and ray ramsey a fine little bitch

 

..there is no guarentee that,ur dog will end up a biter,no matter how many are on his ped...depends on how ya soicalise him...even then like any other dog..he could bite some-body...or he might never....do some lines seem to produce human aggressive dogs...yes....,but againn that don't mean your's will be..give him/her time to mature and see how it turns out.......

 

I agree, aint no telling if a pup is going to strike a human, only you can control his contacts with folks. Also having a gamebred pup my last concern would be them being HA, my concern would be folks taking their laid back nature as oh this is perfect house dog and not using good precaution when one day yall out walking or dog is in front yard and some dog comes up going ballistic and then your dog reacts, and then gets the blame for being a bulldog. Not saying bulldogs can't be good house dogs because I've had bulldogs as house pets just have to use precaution to the extreme. When my kids asked for a house dog i got them a GS and when he got old I got them a Red Dobbie...

 

I agree too, and trust me I know that all dogs (like people ) are different in how they act. All pups are cute and cuddly to kids, but then they mature, how they turn out is part genetics but most is upbringing,a dog that is teased and picked on by kids will most always lash out (and sadly get the blame),where all my yard dogs that have always been on a chain are happy just for a pat on the head(they just have no manners and dont mean to trip someone ect,).My BEST EVER house dog was a gyp off a dog called 44 to July, the breeder a good friend knew that I had another old house dog and that I wanted one that (hopefully would turn out) could get along with everybody. That was hands down the smartest little dog, unfortunately I was never able to breed her(severe prolapse) but thats ok,she was my best friend to the end.I knew the dogs she came from, I can only pray my new pup can turn out half as good.

 

...WELL THEN,YA,JUST ANSWERED UR OWN ,,Q,,,,///////?????g-luck...

 

a-lot of DOGS CAN BE PULLED/POKED/BASHED/KICKED.PUNCHED...AND NEVER/EVER LASH OUT..ESP/BULL-TERRIERS...AND THAT IS WHY THEY MAKE THE BEST DOGS.../YES???????????????????????????????

 

I wasn't ever going to post on here again but that advice you were given on your dog is total b*******. Ok first airhead kennels had the pups of monster man and candy monster man with T KK that mary urban had. Paul got candy from marys or urbans tina Louise. To the boyles dogs vonstein had. Paul bred One time to monster to candy that was a paladin, boyles, iron runs dime ,Toro cross.and they were good dogs not un beatable but good I know cause I beat 1.this was very very long ago. I'm retired for 20 years so don't get a hard on lawman,.well Paul went back to breed back to monster man to candy Mary told him no.so Paul did what any other crooked dog man with sense would done bred them anyway. When mary was gone. Lol. What yall think this is a tea party. .out of those you got some pretty good dogs you got the dog Ranger you got the dog bandit few other pretty good dogs I smoked Granger.but he was 55m tuff.after those the boyz from the hood started coming out to Airhead. And old P mac done got Robbed!!!! No more good dogs. And the Last litter off Ray Ramseys yard. Lol .that was some real bullshit . Yea they bought those pups. Yea with 10, 000 $$ in FAKE MONEY my man Ray almost got hung up on that shit. I have owned and hunted with or against the dogs in your peds. By the way the Ramsey dogs were much Much Gamer and bite just as hard. So take that advice. Breed out the Paladin go to the arts missy bullyson. Get back game dogs.

 

And another thing. Those dogs were the worst people bitter I ever had. I culled 63 paladin dogs for that shit. After a little girl was killed from a friends yard that I was giving dogs to back then. That woke me up about having a whole yard of people bitters. You guys need to make a good decision before you start buying dogs on just paperwork in looks you new guys need to really think about this before you go buying dogs.I'm just telling you the truth.go to the yard look at the dogs make sure you can raise them.

 

Damn good advice Triplej.

 

So tri-j...ur saying that in evey-litter bred the way you say,they were all biter's..????/asking cause i don't know the line ,but i have had some very high-strung biters,,from diff fam''s...an what ur saying is good advice when it come's to buying a dog,,any dog..but the thread starter s-tater,,asking will their dog turn out to be a biter b-cause off what dog's are on it's ped...???????that is no gaurentee to how it will turn out..????????

 

very true!!!!!!!!

 

never had one to bite or want to bite a person, which i had alot and i was partners with paul, mary and darrell...

 

OH K !! if you were partners with Mary Paul and Darrell Who I know well or knew!!!! And your going to say that those paladin dogs didn't bite!!! THATS WHAT YOUR SAYING????? I call bullshit. You couldn't walk up to hardly anything I raised from bigjohn or monster and for sure those inbred on it!! I owned fed and helped mary with her dogs for 10 years so think about that!!!! You do know who I am Right? If you were Partners with Mary or Paul you should, All I got to say is I proved to Paul that those from R&R and Ray were still better than the Monster candy dogs.. I know you can get on line and talk shit like big guy BUT facts are that and I WAS THERE!!!! and I NEVER herd Mary or Paul say anything about partners with anyone! and they were not friends.. You do know that right!!

 

Im done talk to yall in another year I think I will just watch all the wrong info go and yall belive what you want, Im going out to my kennel and work its warm now. But to the op. Go back another way there is a reason why you don't see too much of that remember that! Let me put it like this Mary NEVER bested us or paul!!! there is a reason for that!!! Don't be blind go with your eyes if your dogs act a way how are you going to listen to people on line telling you they don't act that way LOL

 

Do'snt know in other word's....this site is begining to turn me into a cyber bully....lol,,,lol...lol....

 

YES I know who you are and you were crossing the RBJ stuff to them. Never once said you weren't competitive or for the fact wrong, just saying I never had any to bite anyone or wanted to bite anyone so call it BULLSHIT all you want. Likewise I helped and fed for AIRHEAD for almost 11years and what? I totally agree, R&R and Ray did have some of the best, that's why they incorporated their blood into theirs but AIRHEAD did their fair share also and you knew it that's why you used it.. Not a BIG online guy at all but shooting FACTS also and funny thing never heard you were PARTNER either, so I guess it's equal. AND yeah they were friends until Paul cross the line with BLACK GIRL, which I'm sure you know about, IF you were there.. Another funny thing is how everybody know of MARY but no1 wanted to help her when she move back to KC and find out she had CANCER, needed money and I was the only1 there for her, IF you HELPED her like you said you did? AGAIN, likewise I'm done with it but I do know who you are and never said you were WRONG!!!

 

The reason is they USED what they had and not PEDDLED. AND again you right I'll go another route but it's not about MARY.. And lets give credit, she did put some good1's out there and you know it as well as Paul.. And again you right, let your eyes tell you what you have as did mind... By the way triple J, and not from Fla., I'm more down south and have plenty DOGMEN that seen what you said to be MAN-BITERS and CURRSS that will tell you different...

 

Sweet tater can u post a pic of tater I have a litter mate brother to your pup and he's showing to be a little human aggressive but he's heavy line bred on the mountain man bandit and Cates sasha witch is basically gr ch outlaw gr ch Nigerino ch paladin boyles heavy eli with bottles out they should produce

 

Sorry boyles out