ducking dogs

Now this is what i'm getting at,,if some-one was avoiding ya back then ya stayed on his ass un-till,he came to meet ya on the day..hang on to the best comp...till ya got the contract.....they were sporting men back then....................

 

only saying that because money isn't a factor . they live a simple life and the family helps in every way . they just want to prove there dog not get rich . and no one ever got rich unless they peddled .

 

AND THAT'S A FACT.........^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^...x2.....IT WAS A-BOUT THE SPORT..MOST THAT TAUGHT, TO MUCH A-BOUT THE MONEY,YA WOULD NOTICE THAT THEY WOULD FIZZLE OUT OF THE DOG'S+MOVE ON TO SOME-THING ELSE...../??

 

Its called match making.If a dog has a style that doesn't suit your dogs style you would be a fool to go into the show knowing that. Now if u put your dog out there as the best at their weight and will go against anybody,thats different. There is an old saying and Ace can't lose but if u put two Aces down long enough, one will.Ken Allen would match for over $50 grand or a grand or less.He was a sporting man and there was a few more like him back in the day.

 

If u have that animal thats worth a 10,20,50 grand bet and u work a 9 to 5 with a.family them numbers are unreachable! Would u not meet me at a working mans price? If not im gonna say u ducked on me because of the money that u know I could never reach! At the end of the day its to see who has the better animal and if u seen mines once then call him out but then say u wont dont it for less then 50grand ur docking cause u know u have a cur and seen mines go and know we will kill u!

 

back then if you beat a action man like ken allen. it was like hitting the jackpot because they'd want to buy the dog. there were guys who lost & bought the winner & went back into the same camp with there own dog. those were real sportsmen. and if guys like that seen you once or twice that's your ass because they'd go & find something taylored just for it. the rebel was famous for that.

 

this is all fare and dandy but when u call someone out and then say I cant go that low wat part of the game is that?i say it ducking now I place the animal in the hands of some one who can dig deep it to his pockets and the first thing u ask is were did he get the animal from is that so and so' hound and now u say u dont want to go that high wat does that say? To me u can hide behind ur money but for so long! This is pre 70 so this kinda of money was a big deal at these timed

 

Exactly what i've been saying. There IS a such thing as ducking but me calling a 36m for 25-40k and you only having 3 dosent mean im ducking you. You can only sit back and wait for someone to answer you 36m for 3k call.

 

if they used money for the reason of not going into a dog what the hell do you call it ? your just fooling yourself . ken and the a team would go low or high . the comp. is what is was about . but not for all saw it that way .

 

I was answering tboy but I would agree with you . but if the 2 know about each are open and the low guy comes asking .

 

This is a prime example of ducking and spot picking!!! Taken from an interview with Hardcore Kennels for the "The Pit Dog Revolution"

"Doogie's Championship match was into the 4xW Tant's CH Rocco. >Laughs< Tant thought he was going into some street kids, cause that is what he likes to do - match for big bucks into nobodies - but when he found out he was going into me and Doogie he tried to leave. >Laughs again< He had to be padlocked into the place. He finally agreed to go through with the match because too many well-known kennels were there. Doogie forced Tant to pick up in :48. CH Rocco didn't make it home. >Laughs< Still, that didn't stop Tant from "selling" CH Rocco later to Shaun of Bull Skull Kennels. >Laughs again< I think Tant took Rocco's brother and sold him with "Rocco's" papers or something, I don't remember, but I talked to the guy who burried Rocco, and he confirmed the dog never made it home. So when Shaun found out, he gave the fake CH Rocco away, even though the dog later proved to be game.

We then tried to sneak CH Doogie into S.T.P. Kennels too. S.T.P. is just like Tant now, they used to be good dogmen but now they avoid real competition and match into green street kids. But instead of doing it for high dollars they go for chump change; they won't go any higher than $500. >Laughs< It's a business with them now. Make a paper Champion w/ three $500 bets into nobodies and then sell their "Champion" for $20,000. But we wanted them anyway. When they found out they were really matched into me and CH Doogie they paid forfeit. That was the only forfeit S.T.P. ever paid anyone in 30 years in the game."

 

How much of this is actually true is my question. Not saying the dude is being dishonest, but these are some legit competitors he's talking about. Hard to believe Tant and or S.T.P were trying to duck ol' boy. But I wasn't there so it could truth.

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i dont think you duck because even if you go into a Ace keep and handling come with it..Sometimes uncontorable shit may happen durin a keep..So you might not be able to show him at 95 to a 100 percent..And the other fella may have a dog thats not a Ace but a good one and he brings him in at a 100 percent.UPSETs do happen.