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Like I said boiling water is the safest way to treat water for human consumption and I have also worked as a pharmaceutical sales rep the beauty industry is a branch of the healthcare indusrtry as a liscenced professional I work directly with hair, skin, nails, and can be sued just as a doctor can so I definately know what I am talking about when it comes to sterilization and the importance of sanitation and cleanliness not to mention the dangers that come with cross contamination and the transfer of blood borne pathogens, disease, ect.

 

Directy from the Epa's website! If you notice boiling is the first suggested method for EMERGANCY disinfection of drinking water because boiling kills MOST desiase causing organisms that may be present. Notice the second method being household bleach and that it only kills SOME but not all and is only advised if boiling water is not an option ... Now notice the EPA only suggests doing this IF it's an emergancy and boiling water is not an option. So it's really unnecessary to put bleach in dogs water unless it's an emergancy situation in which case you can't boil or buy bottled water as I stated previously in my other posts!! I said boiling is the safest way for human consumption because it will kill almost all harmful disease-causing organisms which bleach will not don't believe me here it is right from the EPA's website!!!

If boiling is not possible, chemical disinfection of filtered and settled water collected from a well, spring, river, or other surface water body will still provide some health benefits and is better than no treatment at all.

Chemical Treatment

When boiling is not practical, certain chemicals will kill most harmful or disease-causing organisms.
For chemical disinfection to be effective, the water must be filtered and settled first.Chlorine and iodine are the two chemicals commonly used to treat water. They are somewhat effective in protecting against exposure toGiardia, but may not be effective in controlling more resistant organisms like Cryptosporidium. Chlorine is generally more effective than iodine in controlling Giardia, and both disinfectants work much better in warm water.

You can use a non-scented, household chlorine bleach that contains a chlorine compound to disinfect water.
Do not use non-chlorine bleach to disinfect water. Typically, household chlorine bleaches will be 5.25% available chlorine. Follow the procedure written on the label. When the necessary procedure is not given, find the percentage of available chlorine on the label and use the information in the following table as a guide. (Remember, 1/8 teaspoon and 8 drops are about the same quantity.)


Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water | Emergency Preparedness | US EPA

 

With all due respect TDK it's pointless to use bleach because it's not as effective as boiling and the EPA only recommends doing it in emergency situations where boiling water is not an option. So if you are using fresh water daily and cleaning bowls daily there is absolutely no reason to add bleach it's pointless unless you are too lazy to change water and clean bowls daily.

 

Choose a disinfection method.

Boiling and chemical treatment are two general methods used to effectively disinfect small quantities of filtered and settled water.

Boiling

Boiling is the surest method to make water safe to drink and kill disease-causing microorganisms like Giardia lamblia and Cryptosporidium, which are frequently found in rivers and lakes.
These disease-causing organisms are less likely to occur in well water (as long as it has not been affected by flood waters). If nottreated properly and neutralized, Giardia may cause diarrhea, fatigue, and cramps after ingestion. Cryptosporidium is highly resistant to disinfection. It may cause diarrhea, nausea and/or stomach cramps. People with severely weakened immune systems are likely to have more severe and more persistent symptoms than healthy individuals. Boil filtered and settled water vigorously for one minute (at altitudes above one mile, boil for three minutes). To improve the flat taste of boiled water, aerate it by pouring it back and forth from one container to another and allow it to stand for a few hours, or add a pinch of salt for each quart or liter of water boiled.



If boiling is not possible, chemical disinfection of filtered and settled water collected from a well, spring, river, or other surface water body will still provide some health benefits and is better than no treatment at all.

Chemical Treatment

When boiling is not practical, certain chemicals will kill most harmful or disease-causing organisms.
For chemical disinfection to be effective, the water must be filtered and settled first.Chlorine and iodine are the two chemicals commonly used to treat water. They are somewhat effective in protecting against exposure toGiardia, but may not be effective in controlling more resistant organisms like Cryptosporidium. Chlorine is generally more effective than iodine in controlling Giardia, and both disinfectants work much better in warm water.

You can use a non-scented, household chlorine bleach that contains a chlorine compound to disinfect water.
Do not use non-chlorine bleach to disinfect water. Typically, household chlorine bleaches will be 5.25% available chlorine. Follow the procedure written on the label. When the necessary procedure is not given, find the percentage of available chlorine on the label and use the information in the following table as a guide. (Remember, 1/8 teaspoon and 8 drops are about the same quantity.)

Available Chlorine Drops per Quart/Gallon of Clear Water Drops per Liter of Clear Water
1% 10 per Quart - 40 per Gallon 10 per Liter
4-6% 2 per Quart - 8 per Gallon (1/8 teaspoon) 2 per Liter
7-10% 1 per Quart - 4 per Gallon 1 per Liter
(If the strength of the bleach is unknown, add ten drops per quart or liter of filtered and settled water. Double the amount of chlorine for cloudy, murky or colored water or water that is extremely cold.)

Mix the treated water thoroughly and allow it to stand, preferably covered, for 30 minutes. The water should have a slight chlorine odor. If not, repeat the dosage and allow the water to stand for an additional 15 minutes. If the treated water has too strong a chlorine taste, allow the water to stand exposed to the air for a few hours or pour it from one clean container to another several times.

You can use granular calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water.
Add and dissolve one heaping teaspoon of high-test granular calcium hypochlorite (approximately ¼ ounce) for each two gallons of water, or 5 milliliters (approximately 7 grams) per 7.5 liters of water. The mixture will produce a stock chlorine solution of approximately 500 milligrams per liter, since the calcium hypochlorite has available chlorine equal to 70 percent of its weight. To disinfect water, add the chlorine solution in the ratio of one part of chlorine solution to each 100 parts of water to be treated. This is roughly equal to adding 1 pint (16 ounces) of stock chlorine to each 12.5 gallons of water or (approximately ½ liter to 50 liters of water) to be disinfected. To remove any objectionable chlorine odor, aerate the disinfected water by pouring it back and forth from one clean container to another.

You can use chlorine tablets to disinfect filtered and settled water.
Chlorine tablets containing the necessary dosage for drinking water disinfection can be purchased in a commercially prepared form. These tablets are available from drug and sporting goods stores and should be used as stated in the instructions. When instructions are not available, use one tablet for each quart or liter of water to be purified.

You can use tincture of iodine to disinfect filtered and settled water.
Common household iodine from the medicine chest or first aid kit may be used to disinfect water. Add five drops of 2 percent U.S. or your country’s approved Pharmacopeia tincture of iodine to each quart or liter of clear water. For cloudy water add ten drops and let the solution stand for at least 30 minutes.

You can use iodine tablets to disinfect filtered and settled water.
Purchase commercially prepared iodine tablets containing the necessary dosage for drinking water disinfection at drug and sporting goods stores. Use as stated in instructions. When instructions are not available, use one tablet for each quart or liter of filtered and settled water to be purified.

ONLY USE WATER THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY DISINFECTED FOR DRINKING, COOKING, MAKING ANY PREPARED DRINK, OR FOR BRUSHING TEETH.


Source EPA

Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water | Emergency Preparedness | US EPA

 

Because the Environmental Protection Agency states clearly that Chemical Treatment is not as effective as boiling and for chemical treated water to be effective it still has to be settled and filtered first so it's not as simple as people pouring a cap full of bleach in water that is not how it's properly done also the EPA clearly states that chemicals such as bleach are not as effective in controlling more resistant organisms like Cryptosporidium, and is somewhat effective in controlling exposure to Giardia. I didn't say this the EPA did there it is below. I suggested I would go to the store and buy purified gallons of water first before boiling that is what I would do. You can add bleach to water but you still have to filter it and let it settle first this is the correct way to do it and even still it's not as effective as boiling.

When boiling is not practical, certain chemicals will kill most harmful or disease-causing organisms.
For chemical disinfection to be effective, the water must be filtered and settled first.Chlorine and iodine are the two chemicals commonly used to treat water. They are somewhat effective in protecting against exposure toGiardia, but may not be effective in controlling more resistant organisms like Cryptosporidium. Chlorine is generally more effective than iodine in controlling Giardia, and both disinfectants work much better in warm water.

 

Boiling water is not only efficent it is more effective then pouring bleach in your dogs water because that is not even how you properly chemically treat water to begin with. The EPA is there for a reason and I damn sure would listen to them before I would a ramdom know it all on a dog forum ( not directing that at you personally TDK). Having a yard full of dogs doesn't make you a vet, a doctor, a scientist, a biology major, a surgeon, or someone who is qualified enough to tell others how they should properly treat water in case of an emergancy. To discredit the EPA is actually quite silly this agency is there for a reason and if it's not safe for me it sure as hell isn't safe for my dogs. If you can't get out there and boil water for 25 dogs than you shouldn't have that many to begin with if you are going to use bleach at least know how to use it and why you are using it. Sorry but I don't think taking half ass short cuts is sufficent enough for my dogs owning a dog is hard enough taking on that many is a full time job and if you are that lazy you don't need that many dogs period. At least if the members here want to advise someone on how to chemically treat water they should advise them properly. I will say this again pouring a cap full of bleach in water is not sufficent enough to treat water for human consumption the water must be settled and purified first. I posted the proper way to do it if the know it alls here want to argue that they know more than the EPA maybe they should go apply for a job with them. This is not a personal jab at you TDK I respect your experience with these dogs but I disagree with telling someone to pour a cap full of bleach in dogs water daily as there is absolutely no reason under normal circumstances to even do this as some are suggesting or recommending and if you have to use bleach in an emergency situation at least know what the hell your doing. Too many fucktards on these dog forums wanting to play vet and hate to admit they are wrong just because they own 50 dogs that makes them vets, doctors, surgeons ect...Absolute foolishness.

 

Who here is giving there dogs rain or well water? If you are giving your dogs tap water there is no need to treat the water with bleach. I have been to peoples yard and mentioned the alge in the water and instead of dumping the water and cleaning the bowl they put some bleach in the water and left it for however many more days. That is lazy!

 

cjlorine isnt what scares me, as what was said most folks drink that shit anyway. and ive heard about keeping a chunk of chlorine in theyre water......... but bleach though?? i dunno..... lol

cant be good for the enzymes & beneficial bacteria ib the dogs digestive system.......

 

Why don't you drink it first and find out for youself lmao!!! Let us know how it goes for you laced.

 

This is AWESOME debate. Both parties bring up valid arguments with supporting details. At the end of the day it is up to the owner to decide what's practical, effective, and efficient for their yard.

 

I can respect that as I stated for me I would buy the cheap purified gallons of water first from the store, if that wasn't an option I would boil It would be a pain in the ass but no one said having these dogs was easy to begin with. I feed raw that takes time planning and preparing meals for the entire month for 5 dogs it's not cheap or easy but it's what needs to be done my dogs are important to me I want the absolute best for them. If it was my last resort I would use bleach and as the EPA says treating with bleach is better than doing nothing at all but that would be my last resort if boiling or buying water in gallons from the store wasn't available.

 

RAW vs kibble...another great debate. Whatever you're feeding Bogart works. He looks excellent

 

Thanks he is fed raw we used to feed kibble but have since switched over and I am very happy with the way my dogs look on it.

 

we have well water and never use bleach. the dogs have been fine for years.

 

My aunt in Illinois has well water as well been at the same place for over 15 years they have never treated theirs either they have 2 dogs and a cat. Well water has a distinguished taste to it but we have never gotten sick drinking it and bogart didn't either when we took him up there last year to visit.

 

yeah i don't like the taste of it myself (tastes like rocks) but i've never gotten sick from it and neither have any of the dogs. in fact, when we travel to shows, we take our own water with us. i trust the well water more than the city water. our well is over 400 ft deep so it's down in the good water table. the neighbor only drilled down to the first water table and when it rains a lot his will get muddy sometimes or dry up in the summer. ours is always consistent and clear.