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Cali jack

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by crushbones, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. kane85

    kane85 Top Dog

    Nope we don't live in a perfect world were there is respect there are the fanboys of dogman and there are haters so dose that answer your question lol
     
  2. kane85

    kane85 Top Dog

    this place makes me lol also everybody on here swings there dog or blood of choice like as if they were swinging there cocks around to see who's is bigger
     
  3. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    mayb that is because none of those dogs were bred by jack they were bought by jack and he stuck them together then that dog changed hands three or four times so i will give no credit to jack for that. any dog that has one dog that he owned he claims as his he gives no credit to the person that raised schooled and handled the dog. have you ever listened to the man it makes me fucking sick. he downs men with years of experience who actually bred raised and used there own dogs. the man is a fucking joke. if he even had a little respect for others than he would get mine but as soon as you disagree with anything he says you are automatically an idiot who has never done a single thing in the dogs. he even said if he thinks he is right but the whole world disagrees with him he would still think he is right. and i have said all of this to him.
     
  4. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    straight from the horses mouth if you believe this shit i got some ocean front property in arizona to sell you




    MrBig wrote:
    jack you did post previously that 98% of your dogs turn out ,not winning ratio,lots of people did reply to your statement ,i didnt say winning ratio,i dont doubt that you breed a good ratio of dogs tuning out but dont tell me 98 out of every 100 come out strait game,to me its unbelievable,and im going to leave at that ,i wont win an argument with you,just stating you did post it ,Rico



    That is not what I said. That is your (or someone else's) idiotic misinterpretation of what I have said.

    The truth is, as a breeder I have set my standards on a goal of all-game litters. Do I believe all-game litters are possible? Yes I do. History has shown they exist, and I have bred plenty of them myself.

    Does this mean that I believe that getting all-game litters, every time I breed my dogs, is to be expected? I have not been able to achieve this, but that is what I strive for.

    The reality is I have had a 100% turn-out in several litters, but I have also had ~50/60% turn-out in others. Most of my litters yield between a 70-90% turnout. A few go above that and a few go below that. In actual contests, the record of my dogs in over 400 contests is an ~87% win and a 92% win-or-show-game record. Overall, only 13% of my dogs that compete lose and only 8% of them lose by quitting.

    As a breeder who has set his sights on a high-percentage benchmark, I want no part of ANY dog from ANY litter that has less than a 70% turnout. To some people a 70% turnout is a Godsend ... to me it is a below-par litter.

    I have the numbers to back-up my claims, and I have paid close attention to what I am doing for a very long time now. If you don't think these kinds of percentages "are possible," then that is only because such percentages are impossible with the dogs YOU are working with. The fact is not everybody is feeding identical-quality dogs.

    If you have built your yard on dogs who come from 30-40% litters, guess what?: your dogs will be throwing 30-40% in their litters. The simple truth is you get what you breed for. On the worst end of the scale, a person can easily see that if he breeds rank curs, that have rank cur littermates, that have rank cur parents, which parents come from all-rank-cur littermates ... and if it's like that all the way back as far as the eye can see in their pedigrees ... that he will be breeding for (and getting!) all-rank-cur litters! People can easily understand the simplicity of this, and yet what they don't realize is that it also works the other way too.

    For if you have the strength to ignore "good dogs" from so-so litters ... and instead you really raise your sights on breeding to excellent dogs from all-game litters ... and, yes, they ARE out there ... and if you then select family-bred mates for these excellent dogs that are likewise out of all-game (or nearly-all-game) litters ... you are MUCH MORE LIKELY TO GET an all-game litter of your own. And then, when you do get your own all-game (or nearly-all-game) litters, if you begin to go forward with the same standards for high-percentage excellence ONLY ... and if you then continuously interbreed ONLY your highest-percentage dogs together ... you will soon have a VASTLT superior and more consistent overall bloodline than the average idiot out there who pays no attention to what he's doing like this.

    Therefore, if you "don't think it's possible" to get much-MUCH higher percentages than the average dogman in your breeding program, it is only because you have set your standards to "average" in your own goals and breeding practices.

    If you want to breed to "good match dogs" that come from so-so (or shitty) litters, then be my guest. Because you will always have so-so (or shitty) percentages in your average turnout, like the average guy with dogs.

    Me, I learned right away that "you get what you breed for" ... and if you breed to dogs with lots of curs for littermates, then you yourself may get the "occasional good dog," but you can be sure that it will have lots of curs for littermates too, and will produce lots of curs in the brood pen as well. (Again, you get what you breed for, whether you realize it or not.)

    I made it my business to select high-percentage foundation dogs, and I made it my business to breed to SUPER-game dogs who came from SUPER-HIGH-percentage litters ... which (guess what?) is WHY my dogs are so much more consistently-game than most people's hit-and-miss bullshit.

    If you "don't want to believe" what I am telling you, then you (and anyone like you) can kiss my ass. Because the dogs you will be breeding are never going to be able to kiss the ass of the dogs I am breeding, on average.

    However, if the basic logic of what I am saying makes sense to you (and it is absolutely A FACT of life) ... and if you make it your business ONLY to breed to the highest-percentage dogs of your chosen family ... and if you perpetually discard the rest ... and if you have it in you to maintain these standards with unswerving vigilance ... then you too can (and will soon) be feeding a perpetually-high-percentage family of dogs one day.

    It is NOT "impossible" to breed ultra-high percentages ... but nor will it "just happen" to you either. Such an extremely high-percentage turnout in your own family will take years of dedication, and meticulous selection, in order to come to fruition.

    Jack
     
  5. slim1972

    slim1972 Big Dog

    Well, from my own experience dealing with him. He is a arrogant sob;) But, I like what HE talks bout. I've been to his yard a couple of times. & had the pleasure to meeting him & his hogs... Not saying his right or wrong. But, WE can learn something from each & everyone of US:) JMHO
     
  6. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    i agree hr has a lot to offer about some things it is just the way he represents himself makes people dislike him.
     
  7. slim1972

    slim1972 Big Dog

    I totally agree:)
     
  8. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    jacks been dreaming again . man what did people do before ol jack came around .
     
  9. Congoman

    Congoman Big Dog

    Jack is funny. Plain and simple. But you can have high turnouts when you get the right dogs throwing. But some people grade different and think that heart means the animal has turned out. An animal should be throwing animals that are of show quality and not just all heart.
     
  10. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    his dogs don't show the heart he says . he full of himself .
     
  11. 1916

    1916 Big Dog

    The question is,how the hell would Jack know if they are turning out since he hasnt matched them since his last loss. and He based his shit off of a loser.
    He lives in fantasyland.
     
  12. crushbones

    crushbones CH Dog

    I'm going to see if I can get him bacc on here!!...lol...just to hear him talk!!...he says some good shit sometime, I'm not going to lie about that but he also fabricates alot of shit too!!
     
  13. venom

    venom Top Dog

    yeah, best part of that big ass convo that was posted was;

    If you "don't want to believe" what I am telling you, then you (and anyone like you) can kiss my ass.

    LOL!
     

  14. Education plays an imperative role in the enhancement of the world’s hasty civilization. It gives us prowess in our daily fracas with such vicious cycle called LIFE. However, it is not WISDOM at all. It is just a stride in attaining what we want to know or the society dictates what we should know. I, for one, am a true believer of education. Coming from an ordinary family, I have ascertained that ,indeed, education gives bliss to anyone who has it, a value that can surpass WEALTH, …but only if, it is used along with the heart. Indeed, our mind is our hegemony, but our heart is the center of our soul. So now you ask, what then is an educated man???

    Good ol' California Jackie is an educated man. He feeds off of what retards have to say to him. Good ol' Cali Jack has a nack of getting under ones skin as well as turning everything against you. He is pure genious. Kudos for this guy for taking everyone elses ideas and putting it in a book.
     
  15. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog


    You wouldn't happen to be "good ol' Cali Jack" would ya?..lol..Im just kidding.

    I agree jack is a well educated man.I wouldn't go as far as to call him "pure genius" though.He is a smart man,and an even bigger smart ass.And if you can weed through his fantasy land bullshit,he has alot of usable information.
     

  16. No no no yungin :) No Smilewiper here but I'll be whoever and whatever these young punks want me to be!!!! I do agree with you though he has taken a lot of useful information and put it to use for the public. What you say is true.
     
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  17. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog

    Well at least a youngin and an old fart :Dcan come to an agreement on something.
     
  18. Brubaker

    Brubaker Big Dog

    I'm not trying to bring back a bash session but i'm a little confused. Is this the same ca jack that lived in fla a long time ago? Late 80's early 90"s maybe? can anyone confirm that for me?
     
  19. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Yes. one and the same. Believe he stil resides there.
     
  20. Augustus

    Augustus Big Dog

    I think he is around SanDiego now but yes there is only one
     

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