Bulldogs and APBT are different things. Aren't they?

I think some people have jumped ahead into knowing what a APBT is but still have no idea. I met a kid the other day that said he had some jeep dogs, nice bred dog too if you like pedigrees but that isn't a bulldog to me. You know a bulldog from what names are behind the dogs as dogmen, I would take a dogman's dog with no papers before I took a great bred dog with famous dogs close in the pedigree. We have all seen those, jeep in the 3rd, buck in 2nd, eli in 4th and so on; beautiful pedigrees basically. But this kid had seen some of our dogs and ask if there were strong, I told him that my female would pull his male down the street if they were in a weight pull. He couldn't even get her off the chain, we were laughing our asses off at me, because there is a huge difference between a APBT and a bulldog but he didn't understand why. A feel that there is a gap in the fanciers of both sides of tracks that are not telling people what they are owning or trying to own, some are selling APBT as bulldogs and some are selling bulldogs as APBT. Am I crazy but doesn't anyone else see there is a difference?

Point to add to this, it takes a certain person that can keep these true bulldogs. True bulldogs can be real pains in the ass, lots of them bark their butts off, they are at times hard keepers, unrealistic strong, some times will push their luck with their keepers (trying to see your breaking point), they can be itimadating at times, they try to get anything with fur, and just overall must be kept and contained from the moment they can walk till the day they take their last breath without losing focus that this dog can be harmful if not contained. This is just some of the things I have seen in my years. Just please understand what are getting yourself into before you try to start owning.

 

Many a dogs, such as: Mongoose,Tornado,Virgil,LLantas, etc. are very chill dogs. Mongoose is noted to be able to run around with pups and would allow pups to hump him. He also ran with a few dogs and never once showed DA, but he was a monster. Tornado is a dbl gr. ch. and was also allowed to run with other dogs, yet showed no aggression. Virgil is now retired and is a house dog. There are pics showing Virgil sleeping next to a cat inside the house. Llantas is regarded by many as the greatest modern dog out there now and is a gr. ch. Llantas is also a weight pull dog and is allowed to run and play with pups. I don't know what you'd consider these dogs, but I consider them real deal bulldogs and none of them were considered hard keepers and certainly didn't try to get any and everything with fur. I think you are confusing a bulldog with a hot dog. Not all dogs that are hot can be considered bulldogs, and not all bulldogs are hot with the intent on killing any and everything with fur. Many believe that if a dog isn't hot, then the dog is cold. This is far from the truth. The best bulldogs know when it is time to work and shows a much higher intellect, like llantas and mongoose. They know that it would be impossible for them to get at the other dog do to their chains and won't act stupid. They know when it is time to work and when it isn't time. Hell, mongoose would go on the mill by himself, probably the easiest dog to be worked, and would run on the mill all day if he was allowed. However, he spent the majority of his time on his chain spot just lying there chillin, or beneath his owner's feet and was perfectly content.

A bulldog is a title, it is earned by the dog's working abilities. The term, apbt, is used to denote the breed. A dog can be hotter than the surface of the sun, and yet not be a bulldog. The dog could be chill like mongoose, llantas, etc. and earn the title of bulldog because they have proven themselves in the pit. People do confuse the two together, but I don't believe your description of what a bulldog is suffices. The apbt is a breed, but his working abilities defines him. Even though he is an apbt by breed, he can be a cur or he can be a bulldog.

The part that is bolded is what I believe a bulldog is.

 

^ the most important part of your post. the term bulldog is subjective, from your mindset to your local.

 

an APBT is something folks think they have based on papers.
a bulldog is something folks know they have and they dont need papers

 

apbt= a breed of dog

bulldog= the code word people say 2 imply their dog has been proven game in the pit....but most who say it havent .........and its usually said by the idiots who are always saying "those who know....blahblahblah"

 

I agree with your statement about people being terribly confused about what a true APBT is. The funniest shit is when I'm walking my dog and some idiot is like "Yo, yo, yo, is that a Pit?" Me being the smart ass that I am I say "No". Then they're like, "My bad, he must not be full-blooded. Is he mixed with red nose"? That's when I say "Yep" and leave them just as ignorant as they walked up.

I think some people buy these dogs for looks and without ever working the dog they feel like their dog is what the breed is about. When they do get around a true bulldog it's like night and day to them. It doesn't surprise me that your idiot couldn't get a gyp off the chain. But I have to admit that when I first got started I bought a dog from a guy and he pretty much said "She's yours, go get her." I ain't gonna lie, I had some trouble myself lol. But he knew how she was gonna act and sent me out there to get a good laugh and to show me how far I still had to come before I could even stand in the shadow of a real dogman. She wasn't mean or anything, she just felt like when that chain came off it was time to go hunting and I wasn't ready for that lol. It's kinda humbling to have 3-4 older guys you look up to out there laughing at you while 35 lbs of whoop-ass tries to rake the yard with you.

To me, your statement above is more a better description of the terrier group as a whole. You've probably been around more dogs than me, but those I have been around were probably the most laid back breed of terriers I have had the pleasure to work.

I agree with you on this. While many around here will only call them bulldogs after they've caught a few hogs, others (including myself) use the term as a nickname sorta with little to no meaning.

I agree with you in a sense, but not that it is "code" and if it was why would you throw it out there like that. I don't think it is that serious, but it just gives makes the pigs think they know something. Like "Okay if they say bulldog they are talking about fighting dogs" and that just isn't the case. Like I said, it's not that serious but.......