x-pert/ruffian

is the x-pert/ruffian blood amstaffs?

 

I know ruffian is an amstaff line for sure

 

And from what I have seen I just checked an amstaff forum x-pert is also a staffy line

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Yep, Amstaffs.

 

so where they always amstaffs? i believe i remember readin in something (may have been richard stratton... aand on that tip ive read on threads that people think he is b.s. why?) that at one point the x-pert line was once a pitbull line started by a man and wife?

 

....please dont jump on me guys about the richard stratton comment... im still green as grass... just trying to learn before i open i mouth

 

they go back to the black jack dogs Sr and Jr of early Earl Tudor breedings

 

here's The Ruffian
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [15182] :: THE RUFFIAN

a solid Ruffian dog
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [98427] :: MOUNTHAVEN TEX OF HARWYN

 

x-pert ruffian cross
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [15308] :: X-PERT GALLANT LADY

 

thanks for that b.r.

 

People hate me for telling this story. Ruffian were gamedogs at one time, they were handled by real dog people over 60-70 years ago and very few have used correctly since then. It was even speculated that Carver used Ruffian in his dogs and vice versa. The Ruffian dogs are still good in terms of conformation if you like heavy bone structure. They are the tightest decendants of blackjack alive today but they have lost their place in the gamedog world. One of my favorite staffs and if I was going to own a AM Staff or a pitbull it would be them but they are no replacement or equivalent to the bulldog.

 

thanx again l.b.d. .... thats what i thought as i said i remember reading that same thing somewhere i just brung it up because while doing some internet searching those names came up under amstaffs... and i thought the 2 ppl (husband and wife if im correct) who made the x-pert line were into game dogs thats why i asked

 

This website should tell you everything you need (link below). From origin to modern day dogs, complete with peds & pictures. A great site really. Too bad APBT people do not create sites like this one for their own bloodlines/strains. But anyway, happy reading!

http://www.lamasko.com/x-pert/History.html

Blessings ...

 

thanks alot gave me alot of understanding... i guess so it seems that right around 1950 or so is when they started not being game dogs and into amstaffs?

 

This is the truth ..good post.