I dont understand Dogo breeders.... (APBT breeder perspective)

So I got my baby dogo from a breeder in Pleasanton, TX. The father of my pup was actually featured on Nat Geo on a hog hunt. The father is a great hunter and the breeder considers him their best dog.

Since then, I've been doing some research on Dogos. Most dogo breeders breed their dogs according to the "dogo standard". The dog must have a pure white coat (black eye patch and some black on ears are allowed), not be deaf, and some other normal traits.

Coming from APBT, I really don't give a damn about the color of the dog, only what it can do. If feel the same way about the Dogo. If a pure white Dogo with a few black spots on the body can hunt like no other dog, take down a hog fiercely, and just be an overall good working dog, why in the heck would you not want that bloodline in future litters?

The breeder had several other large dogos from different bloodlines in their yard. Many of them were exactly the Dogo standard, but could not hunt worth a damn. Yet these are the dogs that are sought after and that most breeders brag about.

I had looked at numerous breeders around the US, and all of them talked about maintaining the breed standard, but hardly any of them talked about what these animals were bred to do- hog hunting!

 

Thats the show game my friend, it doesnt matter a shit what your dog is capable of, just what it looks like.
As long as it can make it around a show ring thats about as capable as it needs to be.

Sad but true

 

I was just getting to this on the American Bulldog topic lol. btw do you have the link to that breeders sight I cant find it :/

 

I agree.

But with Dogo's now being bred for their hunting skill's as oppose to how they look, I'm thinking over years to come we will began to see a new type/standard of Dogo's(mainly in hunting areas/countries). The Dogo Kennel clubs/breeders won't like this for sure.

 

does anyone know of a good forum on dogos to check out ???

 

yes sir! Welcome to Los Cazadores Dogo Kennels

 

That's so ridiculous! haha. Man can you imagine what's going to happen to all these dogs that are bred for shows 100 years from now? Pretty dogs that arent worth a damn!

 

ive been trying to find the same thing. no luck yet.

 

Yeah...it's called the Am Staff.

 

No doubt, I won go hunting with them. They seem the real deal to the fullest.

 

.......hmmm

 

That color was added for the purpose of being easily visible when in the thick woods.
They have standards for reasons, does not necessarilly mean it is not bred for work because color is a fault.
If you got a lineage of all white dogs as it was intended to be and all the sudden someone pops up with some dogos that are of assortted colors.... chances are those arent dogos.

 

comes down to what you breed for, soon they have man biters to cause they didn't stick to the hunting human friendly type, they went for the mean all to standard useless batch of pups that will most likely be on the news and bit small kids and old lady's in your neighbor hood.:rolleyes:

people should breed a dog for what it was bred for, and good at is my opinion i guess, damn dog could be blue and if it did what it was suppose to do to its fullest mentally and physical ability . i'd feed the dog. They need a purpose there good a,t and enjoy. cause its got to have interest in its work, or it will just quit!

but you have to breed a dog so it has the wind and strength and and freely moving limbs. cant breed a basset hound for the grey hound races...

sorry about the rant the post seemed


that goes for any breed, hound to herd dog


sorry for the rant but the threads initioal post was stupid was stupid....:cool:

bottom line hes breeding for money and not for performance, and tries to make up in standard colors to get his generation of pups produced to runn off hopes and dreams, like other breed you should cull or fix, the less than perfect spawn! if yo wish to breed,

take two cold dogs and bread enought times and cull hard and you might luck out but dont waste your money on a deer dog that don't run deer and try, get a good dog to your standard, not Joe Blows.....

 

just dont let others pay for your choices, dont give dogs to folks that cant be smart with one.
It keep hounds out the pound that way, and less shit on the news!:cool:

 

It seems you painted "dogo breeders" with a broad brush and kinda lumped all of them together as just breeding to the standard regardless of hunting ability. That is not all together true. While there may be breeders out there that breed inferior animals, there are plenty who hunt their dogs and don't keep junk on the yard. You really have to distinguish between "breeders" and "real hog hunters". Lots of folks keep all kinds of breeds of dogs just to sell puppies, and I'm sure some dogo breeders are no different. Why would you buy a puppy from a guy that you say has a bunch of dogs on the yard that aren't worth a damn, anyway?

 

Of course I dont mean all breeders. But, if you look on the internet, most breeders stick to the "standard", which i think is dumb. White dogs produce deaf dogs. Dogs with excessive spots are deemed "unsuitable for breeding" according to the standard. There are some breeders, like the one I mentioned previously, that breed according to the hog hunting skills. My argument was that these dogs were bred for hunting, and some of the standards that this breed is subject to doesnt help the bloodline and focuses too much on appearances rather than what the dog can do.

I also never said he had a bunch of dogs that aren't worth a damn in his yard. He just had some massive dogs that said were too big for hunting and didnt have the gameness like the other ones had. I'm assuming they arent bred since the guy is focused on hunting skills.

Finally, I'm looking at them as a former apbt breeder. My dogs were bred for one purpose, and the bloodline was bred to produce CHs and Gr Chs. Like they said earlier, if I wanted to focus on show aspects of the dog, I'd get into Staffs.

 

i understand what the white color is for, but a pure white dog that has a couple of black spots of the body will be just a visible as a white dog without spots

 

Dogos are working dogs and go through a selection process exactly the way bulldogs do.
Dogos bred in places other than the source will not be the same as the originals due to the different laws and customs that exist. If you want a real working Dogo, go to the source.

While you folks argue and select based on how many spots a Dogo may or may not have, here we select purely on performance.


This is an example of how Americans view the Dogo


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mpYolJmdlE[/ame]




And this is how we view the Dogo

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avPUgTYkkgI[/ame]


So if you want a true working Dogo, go to the source....
here is the source: http://www.dogoargentinonores.com/