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Should I buy this pup?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by anabolic, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. anabolic

    anabolic Pup

    I was going to buy a male puppy from with this pedigree:

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [207018] :: ALI & ARVENA BREEDING

    But I noticed the puppy is inbred, the sire is the dams sire. I have no access to the puppy as it will be shipped to me from another country. Should I go ahead and buy it? How does it's pedigree look.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    if thats what you like:cool:
     
  3. PERRO

    PERRO Big Dog

    Here we go.....
     
  4. AGame

    AGame CH Dog


    Agreed if that's your flavor by all means go for it if you know about the parents and shit otherwie i would find something off of someone i knew that way you know what your getting but me personally wouldnt touch those just me
     
  5. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    ^^^ see thats what i had ment to say...lol
    good advice AGame
     
  6. I cannot speak to the peds, but as far as inbreeding goes - it can be good or bad Anabolic. What inbreeding does is it tightens up the genes in the offspring which can enhance traits - both good and bad. If you have an amazing bitch and breed her back to her father you can enhance and bring out their good traits even more in the pups, if you have a not so great dog you can make pups that are a huge genetic mess.

    So if you got good dogs you can fix some potential flaws and control and enhance.... if you got average or bad dogs.... could be in for trouble.

    Example:

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    "An intensive form of linebreeding where an individual with highly desirable traits(S) is mated to his daughter(D1) and daughter's daughter(D2) and so on, in order to maximise the percentage of S's genes in the offsprings. The D3 offspring would have 87.5% of his genes while D4 offspring would have 93.75%. Such breeding methods can be used to create a "near clone" of a desirable individual."
     
  7. fblb

    fblb Top Dog

    Why would you go out of country for that blood? There is a ton of good working stock down from that over here. Look for some stuff down from simba/biscuit stock if that is more what you are wanting.

    Good schematic, Adivina.
     
  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    with the cost, the shipping and the hassle, you can find better bred dogs like that most anywhere....contact TGarner Kennels....go thru the Ch. Dynamite dog....US1
     
  9. anabolic

    anabolic Pup

    I'm not from the US and we only have one breeder in my country for APBTs, the rest are backyard breeders.
     
  10. Where are you from? I doubt you only have one reputable breeder in your whole country, you probably just don't know where to look or who to talk to. The best breeders are not out there putting up advertisements, it takes time, effort, and doing the right research to find them. After you find them comes the step of proving to them you are a respectful and responsible person that they would want to give or sell a pup (or adult) to.

    If you don't know about them, you may not be ready to get a pup of the caliber they are selling, but it doesn't mean they don't exist.
     
  11. What country if I may ask
     
  12. Elnegro

    Elnegro Pup

    I guess you are from Europe and i also believe you are from Greece.
    You are talking about the pup from "Forest Hill" that "Frisco" posted?

    If i am mistaken..sorry!
     
  13. You can find garner blood on the north pole
     
  14. shortbedder

    shortbedder Big Dog

    I wouldn't ship it.
     
  15. anabolic

    anabolic Pup

    You're right.
     
  16. Elnegro

    Elnegro Pup

    The sun will rise in 2 hours in Greece!!
    Take a sleep and keep on dreaming about your next dog...
    Tommorow it's a better day for difficult decision :)
     
  17. blackbeard

    blackbeard Big Dog

    That doesn't matter. What matters is that you are looking abroad for dogs when the best dogs are here.
     
  18. LOL Exactly my thoughts! :cheers2:
     
  19. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    Right on. If you're gonna import your dog, and you want that blood, why not import it from TG. Plus, I promise you they're are good dogs in europe. You just haven't found them. But as far as the original ??? , I got one that's father to daughter breeding and I love her. Got a male who's parents are brother and sister, their parents were brother and sister, and their parents were half brother and sister. Ain't nothing wrong with him. He ain't my favorite, but he's all there upstairs. Ain't no retard or nothin.
     
  20. TASOSCHATZ

    TASOSCHATZ Big Dog

    Anabolic
    first of all you do not make the right questions to get the answers you want. To the rest, the breeder of this dog is here known as Speed, owner of Chinaman Junior, if it matters to anyone's opinion about the dog. I do not say this in a positive or negative way, I just say it. It is the same kennel where Franzi got some of her dogs from.
    About TG I heard about many happy people in this board but I also heard about the other side of the coin. So, Anabolic as you might already know there are no guaranties for anything in this life, it is up to you to take a decision. The only way to be sure is to purchase a grown up dog.
     

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