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William's Phoenix???????

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Mr.Mixon, May 9, 2010.

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  1. Mr.Mixon

    Mr.Mixon Pup

    Mr.Mixon, May 9, 2010
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  2. NorthernOutlaw

    NorthernOutlaw Big Dog

    NorthernOutlaw, May 9, 2010
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  3. Mr.Mixon

    Mr.Mixon Pup

    Mr.Mixon, May 9, 2010
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  4. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    mary was a p.o.s.
    slim shady was a geat stud.
     
    benthere, May 9, 2010
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  5. Mr.Mixon

    Mr.Mixon Pup

    Yeah my interest was of WILLIAMS' PHOENIX herself and if anyone knew how she herself was.

    I am very thankful to NorthernOutLaw for the links.

    BenThere also thank you for the the information on Slim Shady, but yeah I am more interested on WILLIAMS' PHOENIX.

    Not a lot to go by on her but enough. Once again Thanks.
     
    Mr.Mixon, May 9, 2010
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  6. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    mary was around my area most of her life, as a performer she wasn't up to our standards. she was bred 3 times to very good studs who produced with every other bitch they were bred to. unfortunately most mary's offspring didn't work out although most had very good conformation. their faults were between their ears and in their heart.
     
    benthere, May 10, 2010
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  7. NCK

    NCK Pup

    ped #343849 Very good dog produced well also
     
    NCK, May 10, 2010
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  8. Mr.Mixon

    Mr.Mixon Pup

    Mr.Mixon, May 10, 2010
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  9. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    I don't know about phoenix, only mary. its too bad mary didn't produce for my friend, it wasn't for lack of trying on his part. breeding gator to phoenix in my opinion is a great breeding on paper, if I remember correctly tl told me some good dogs came out of the litter, mary wasn't one of them. don't take this as a knock on phoenix or tl, not every dog works out and even the best performer can be a dud as a producer. breeding is a crapshoot, you can't win if you don't play. the best breeding on paper still has to be proven in performance in my opinion.
     
    benthere, May 10, 2010
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  10. Mr.Mixon

    Mr.Mixon Pup


    Very true statement.

    Thank You for your information about WILLIAMS MARY
     
    Mr.Mixon, May 10, 2010
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  11. blackbeard

    blackbeard Big Dog

    My friend owned Phoenix, she was a 2xw.
     
    blackbeard, Jun 26, 2010
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  12. Cold Country

    Cold Country Pup

    I owned Bellingham's "Pheonix" as she was registered,she was not a 2x,I farmed her to T.l. to be bred and when I was about to ask for her back she ended up DEAD (yard accident),she was sent downsouth at 6 years of age with no w's and was never used stateside,he was as truthful in his dealings with her as he was with his magazine
     
    Cold Country, Apr 13, 2011
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