Were Dogman of the Past Cruel?

I agree wwII just like we arent gonna ever beat Jay even if we lived in MX and won the powerball lolol. Either u got it or u dont. Not one here will look like Jay or Ronnie no matter what. They come around less often than a AROD.

 

you misunderstood me I think

I never said you couldnt lift 500 with out I said as soon as the system cleans completly out you have to build back up to 500 but it wont be as easy as being on the nitrous thats all it a false accomplishment

it kinda like redbull gives you wings but soon as it wears off you crash cause your wings gave out LOL!

couldnt think of a better example

 

OK NOW back to task..they will make a dog perform better just like any mamal with a endocrine system. We wont make a Mayday dog just with Chemicals,training,feed...a animal must be blessed with being one in a million as well. I am turned off now lol.

 

There was no big differnce the shape of the dog was just that he looked like the differnce in a shitty keep next to a good one. The said dog was curred out in short order bad signs both times i saw him work with my own two eyes the man above blessed me with. the fact that she was a rank curr has nothing too do with it tho. There was no big gorrilla dog pullin like a monster it is what it is.

 

The majority of this stuff will cause a dog to run hot anyway when used opposed to natural methods like good feed worm free dog hard worker and you having a idea of what you are doing some people wouldnt know a bulldog if it was in front of your face. Just like some dont know how to shape a dog to save there life. A good keep will benafit a dog far more than any drug or supp on the market imo. If you have ever pulled you would know ask yourself why did i lose and why did i win.

 

You and I both know thats not all steriods do:rolleyes:

 

No. I was just sayin'....

 

Im getting tired of schooling you out frank you need to get a book or something lol

 

no need to school me because nothing you can tell me is gonna change my mind on roids affecting a dogs ability

because I belive the wit stronger muscles would come more power,more speed,and greater reflexes

so to me its cheating

and if it helps the muscle get stronger it in turn would effect the dogs bite correct me if Im wrong but a dogs bite power comes from its jaw muscle and tendons

so stronger muscles in the jaw means a stronger bite and being altered by roids means a freakish bite

 

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no nnnoooooooooo. If a dog has no mouth it will never i repeat never i repeat never have mouth you gotta be kidding me franky. Go do some dogs just just leave me alone :mad: lol

 

everyone that played in top comp has try it once or twice. but they are tricky & if you don't know what your doing you will do more harm then good. is it cheating NO does it have it's place in the game YES. will it turn your rank cur into bolio NO. will it help your ch get to grch yes. but once you get there you may not be able to stud your dog or breed your bitch there two side to a coin. if you ain't cheat'n you ain't try'n. when there's big money on the line folks do everything in there power to get the advantage over the rest of the comp.

 

I cant speak about anything other than weight pull as thats what I know. Give your dogs steroids all you want because 9 out of 10 dogs quit working long before they lose the strength to. It is all about a strong mind and drive and roids cant do crap for that.

 

so if it does nothing for the dog why use it
and mr.futuristic your not that smart
you advocate something that is in no manner good for a dog or a human

in humans it is used to maximise a humans ability to perform at top levels far beyond the average ability of a man that dosnt use

if it dosnt give a person/dog the edge then why use it

its cheating its used to make an animal perform better than it naturaly can

if me thinking that way makes me green then so be it

AND IT FRANK NOT FRANKY!!!!

 

Alright im sorry francis im out of line your rite pull your skirt back up. I know i dont know everything i roll with some of the best that are still around not oldtimers and went into comp you sit and wonder if there even pulling there hounds anymore dont need 2 brag my name carries weight the only reason i even sit and shoot shit on here is because im addicted to these hounds and have been slowing down with the shows so figure i can help some greenhorns such as yourself out on the spare time. When you make a champ give me a holler. Dont know you so dont know who you are outside the net but it seems as if you dont do shit with your hounds. No hard feelings mabye we might be across from each other one day and ill give you a proper beat down on one of those eli crap eaters you love so much:cool:

 

There are NO rules stating what you can or cannot use during your keep. There is NO such thing as CHEATING DURING YOUR KEEP. The only time cheating becomes a factor is when the RULES APPLY AT THE SHOW. Scientific conditioning and nutrition are always evolving and everyone from ameture sports athletes to professional athletes are looking for that little edge to get that upper hand in before there competition does and if you dont keep up with the times you will get left behind.

Im sure most of you have heard this saying before>The main mistake alot of people make in conditioning is conditioning the wrong dog. Too much emphasis is placed on conditioning or supplements and not enough on the dog itself.....The main factor and the most important thing is that you are bringing in a TRUE BULLDOG!

Were dogman in the past cruel??? Is too generalized of a question its like asking if all slave owners where cruel as cruelty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

Saiy,, don't tell them about the juice that makes them teeth grow or we'll be in big trouble! lol.

A little shot of Upsidedownbowl during the conditioning will give you 20% more out of your dog! :cool:

Personally I'm gonna use anything and everything I can that will allow me to bring in my dog in the very best condition I can possibly reach. People attribute way too much to anabolics, they are just another aid to conditioning like vitamins or protein supplements...etc. If you don't have a good dog to begin with no amount of juice is going to help you.

 

samething I was thinking if its a true bulldog he has what it takes to to make the show

and if you need roids to help in recovery while working a dog then obviously your over working a dog

why not rest him it works wonders for recovery add in a rub dow to release them toxins from the muscles and theyll be ok

hey this is just my oppinion

 

This thread is getting loooooooong:rolleyes:

 

Franks dribbling

 

You may think from my posts that I would use steroids on my dog, I wouldn't. I am just defending another good way to work your dog. I wouldn't be afraid to go into anyone using juice.