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Broadway's Jack Frost

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by moof, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. moof

    moof Pup

    Hi I live in NZ and have a dog with alot of limey's nelis and Broadways Jack Frost in him, Was wondering if anyone knows anything about the Jack Frost dog, anything would be a great help thanks..
     
  2. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    just thought id start here for you first. thought it may interest you.

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    NELIS ROM

    "Nelis" was sired by Mr Bulldog's Champion "Spike" His dam was Mr. Bulldog's "Jessy". "Nelis" was one of six pups from the litter, his brother J. B. "Spike Jnr." won one and another "Klinker" lost dead game to a son of Pieter's "Pilot" who out weighed him by six pounds.
    His brother "Trouble" was schooled and tested. Sisters "Lucky" and ”Paddy" was schooled and tested hard, and a sister called "Suzy" was said to have quit, yet when bred to Champion Willy Booger and a Rufus / Heinzl dog produced some good ones.
    "Nelis" was then sold . At eighteen months old he began his career and was brought back to be two-dogged by his sire Champion "Spike" and a half-brother Champion "Ringo". He was then matched into Nico's Champion "Sting" who was out of "Handsome" & "Hot Lips". "Handsome" was out of "Bolio", and "Hot Lips" out of Grand Champion "Hank" Because of a lack of conditioning, bad advice and going two pounds up hill, he lost this contest in a deep game fashion. When the match was over "Nelis" was left dying in the pit.
    Mr Golden Eye asked that if he could save the dog, could he then keep him and was told he could. So Mr Golden Eye worked all night to reconstruct the dogs face and ultimately save his life. A few weeks later Mr Golden Eye came back to collect "Nelis" and were told by Mr Bulldog and U & S kennels that they wanted a treadmill for the dog. So, Mr Golden Eye built them a treadmill and returned once again to collect the dog. He was told he could have the dog, but would have to pay two hundred and fifty pounds extra.
    He then started making arrangements to bring "Nelis" into the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[​IMG]</st1:country-region><ST1:p. As the dog was so badly damaged he knew that he couldn't bring him in the conventional way and would therefore have to smuggle him into the country. A small rowing boat with an outboard motor was rented and the <ST1:pNorth Sea</ST1:place was crossed. Having had to swim the remaining part of the journey Mr Golden Eye changed into some dry clothes and finally walked "Nelis" into the
    <st1:country-region w:st="on"><ST1:pUK</ST1:place</st1:country-region>.
    At the time King Limey had a two-time winning bitch called "Tug", who was a litter sister to Irish Tim's Champion "Lochem", one of the two best match dogs Jack Kelly ever saw? (The other was Tudor's "Spike") "Tug" came out of Curtis's "Fox Jnr." and Uptown's Champion "Snubby". When "Nelis" and "Tug" were bred the mating produced a R. O. M. litter containing Champion "Dutch", Champion "Gnasher", Champion "Smuggler" and "Fatso".
    "Nelis" was bred to "Tug" three times and they produced high calibre dogs in every litter. "Nelis" was bred twelve or thirteen times and subsequently produced six Champions. When inbred on his mother Champion "Dutch" produced Champion "Neilson" and "Popeye", who in return are registered R. O. M. dogs. "Nelis" and his ability to reproduce is pure gold. You can cross it with every bloodline and it will produce winners. His inbred son Champion "Neilson" R. O. M. was bred to an English Show Stafford and produced Grand Champion "Bella".
    "Nelis", without a shadow of a doubt, was and still is the European "Dibo". This is a big claim to make, but count all the winners, Champions, Grand Champions and unofficial R. O. M. dogs that have come from his blood. This family never numbered more than about seventy dogs divided over a handful of kennels. Limey Kennels never had more than twelve or fifteen at any one time. Compare that to the American standards of the time.
    Only three dogs which came out of "Nelis" are still alive (as far as we're aware) Limey Kennels "Crippen", Limey Kennels "Young Spike" and his sister "Sioux". We have bred "Crippen" to "Sioux" four times, and she throws no more than two or three pups in each litter. But each one of these is a fast lane bulldog and one hundred percent. We don't know yet about "Young Spike" because his stud career is just starting off at the age of ten.

    thought id give ya a read on that as Nelis was popular for you N Z 'ers, and you have him in your dogs background. can ya PM me, or post up the ped and i may be able to give you some more info.

    firstly, regarding Jack's Frost, and i say that, because correctly speaking he is Broadway Jack's Frost. however i know that on alot of peds it does say the above mentioned.;)
    i do have a little info on him and know of a number of dogs sired by him also. ill take a look at what pix i can post and info etc. just thought id start with Nelis for you as it was handy.
     
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  3. moof

    moof Pup

  4. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

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    CH NIELSON

    i have some scanned docs ill pm you later
     
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  5. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    Niellson v's Tyler 28min.
    Niellson v's Costa 53min.
    Niellson v's RockyII 42min.
    Niellson v's Dread. Nielson picked up game in 47min.

    i would have edited this into the last post but im having trouble with posting and editing things on the site at the present time. sorry for that.
     
  6. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    here's an old picture for you moof........

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    CH DUTCH
     
  7. mick73

    mick73 Pup

    hey can help you out with info on this dog had 3 by him out of 3 different females one beening ch art, pm me if you want to know anything about alot of the dogs in your dogs ped cheers mike.
     
  8. masta of game

    masta of game Banned

    thats a beautiful animal, very athletic
     
  9. midnite

    midnite Pup

    hws it m8t i no the breeder of this dog angelo,he wants 2 no if he cn get ur email or cell number m8t,he bin trin 2 contact u cheers,hes jst breed anther gd litta i gt 1 of the pups,hes blck like jack cheers wait 4 ur reply
     
  10. hi moof, i am trying to track down anyone that is still dealing or breeding broadway jacks off-spring asap. can you help and send me contacts. cheers
     
  11. hi midnite, please do you have contacts for the guy you have mentioned above "angelo" i am trying to reconnect with broadway jacks off-spring pups and his bloodlines please. thanx
     
  12. Polar Ice

    Polar Ice Pup

    What dogs have got Redskin
     
  13. I live in nz and have a bit jacks frost threw a few my dogs
     
  14. This is a pick before he was sent down under
     

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  15. Thanks for sharing that pick sunbeam he is on ice i beleave and was a consistant producer when breed to alot different blood in nz .not sure if this a 100 correct and correct me if im wrong he was purchased by the same person that imported jeep jr in australia beore he was brought by the new owner in nz and lived out his days how old did he live till i thought i was told 17 but could be wrong on the diet of mighty mix home brewed dog food made in nz ...this what i feed my crew would he be classed as a bloodline in nz now since a few ppl are linebreeding threw his offspring?
     

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