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carbs in a raw diet

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by c.knight, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. c.knight

    c.knight Big Dog

    I read somewhere that a raw diet shouldn't contain veggies or fruit. If that's case where do they get there carbs from? and is this a good format for a raw diet?per lbs2 grams protein1 grams carbs1 grams fat
     
  2. Pirbul

    Pirbul CH Dog

    From what i've read, on the wild (wolfs), carbs come from the prey's stomach those contain veggies, so on a BARF diet the veggies are there because this and to improve what a natural diet would be, but those are little % of the diet, protein is the main source of energy for dogs.

    If im wrong please feel free to correct me :)
     
  3. c.knight

    c.knight Big Dog

    thanks for that would tripe be a good way for carbs?
     
  4. real_one

    real_one Big Dog

    Cheap ass generic corn flakes for carbs. You also do need veggies in your raw diet I would suggest broccoli as the main vegetable.
     
  5. I suggest complex carbs and not simple carbs. Simple carbs such as corn flakes and rice are quickly converted to sugar by the body. Complex carbs such as raw veggies are the way to go. ;) Brocolli and carrots are 2 good ones.

    I'm no expert but nutrition has come a long way since the days of the $100 keep. :)
     
  6. Shameless

    Shameless Big Dog

    Just wanted to say, for those that use vegetables, kudos to you but it's all a matter of preferance, opinion, and what your dog can handle. 2 of my dogs I switched to raw because of their allergies.

    I never used anything other than meat, bone, and organ and had great success, I varied the types of meat regularly. The only thing I added regularly was all natural plain yogurt (3-4 times a wk), coconut oil, and eggs.

    I did use tripe quite regularly to.

    There are some very good yahoo groups on Raw, so really you just have to decide for yourself and test stuff out and see what works for your dogs.
     
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  7. Annie

    Annie Pup

    There are many many good vegetables and fruits that are good for dogs, and can be added to a raw diet. As stated above, wolves eat the contend of the intestines, getting vegetable nutrition. Some good ones for dogs are carrots, broccoli, peas, green beans, potatoes, apples, bananas, blueberries, just to name a few. For anyone considering any type of raw or made at home diet, a lot of intense research is required. Please don't move a dog to a feeding program like that until you know you will be able to give all the nutrients a dog needs.
     
  8. c.knight

    c.knight Big Dog

    cool thank you i thought they couldnt digest veggies unless it come from another animals insides but thanks for the enlightment good she like broccoli
     
  9. ANCHOR

    ANCHOR Guest

    i suggest once youve done your homework, you put all veg. in the processor and turn it into pulp;)
     
  10. matty

    matty Big Dog

    Have fed as raw diet for years the dogs look and perform much better, imo dogs do not need those simple carbs they get their energy from fat and protein not like us humans, plenty of meat and bone some pulped veg spinach etc 2 times a week and i like to add kelp as a suppliment maybe sometimes some natural bio youghart and an egg, i never feed rice or oats i dont believe the dogs need them.
     
  11. xavier777

    xavier777 Pup

    From what Ive read wolves in the wild would shake the stomach contents (veggies) and really not eat them that often from their prey. Although if you look at the life span in comparison to a domesticated canine there is a difference. Therefore I agree with BoogiemanBlood...complex carbs are great and have so many benefits and just as stated above carrots and Broccoli are excellent as well as other raw vegs. I use green beans a lot as well as they are a great in keeping your dog full in between meals.
     
  12. andrewp35

    andrewp35 Pup

    I too dont believe they really need carbs.I personally feed chicken wings,minced chicken,tripe,minced beef and a marrow bone a couple times a week.some chunked liver/hearts a couple times a week also.also use a suppliment called Green food=

    <LI type=circle>Kelp: The most nutrias form of vegetable on this planet. It contains as many as 41 trace elements, vitamins A,B,C,D,E and K, and is without equal as a source of natural iodine.

    Its aids digestion ans elimination and helps to build resistance to disease, especially of the urinary system

    <LI type=circle>Alfalfa: Contains 16% protein, vitamins C,B1,B2,D,E,K provitamin A, and several mineral salts including calcium phosphorus ans potassium.

    <LI type=circle>Nettle: High in iron and vitamin C, cleanses the body of toxins and accumulated wastes.

    <LI type=circle>Parsley: Provides large quantities of vitamin C and A, also contains iron, calcium, phosphorus and manganese. A digestive, tonic, it expels gas from the intestines.

    also use these a couple times a week spinach=iron,anti oxidants(excuse the spelling),celery=Aids rheumatism also helps any lost tissue and muscle tone.+carrott= Blood clenser, helps tooth enamel and Vit A.

    I will also suppliment with cod liver oil.

    I know i went slightly off topc but just to show you,they dont really need the carbs.All my dogs are healthy,full of energy and have good coats on them.
     
  13. Bmf_bt

    Bmf_bt Big Dog

    meat consists of muscle tissue, fat and connective tissue. Fat gives the dogs energy. So the really don't need carbs for energy. All though I strongly recommened ading veggies because JUST fat is not healthy
     
  14. Flipside

    Flipside CH Dog

    I personally feed 80% muscle meat and bone, 15% organs (offal) and 5% fruit or veggies. Remember...veggies must be cooked, steamed or run through a food processor to be digestible for a dog as they cannot break down raw veggie matter!!!
    I do feed cooked white rice once in awhile as a "filler" as it is a safe clean carb source and dogs rarely have a allegies to it!

    YIS
     
  15. magdalena

    magdalena Big Dog

    Tripe is a great additive to RAW feeding, just not the supermarket white kind, the green tripe.
     
  16. madboy

    madboy Big Dog

    Best way you can go! I personally cant find kelp and supplement with salmon oil,.....oh! apple cyder is full of good'z also;)
     
  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    tripe is one of the best things you can feed a dog...it is nasty as hell...stinks like the ass of a dead skunk...and it is all i can do to get it to them...i buy it in frozen 10lb 'chubs'...i use the saw-z-all to cut it into sections and thaw/feed as needed...this prevents handling it. the enzymes from the ruminant animals (cows) break down grasses/hay.etc..etc..those enzymes then help break down the food your dog eats...the tripe makes any food better based on the assimilation effects it has for the dogs digestive system...
    i feed about 90% raw, i do use some dry food every now and then...but not often....i feed mostly chicken backs, livers,gizzards and necks....(processor near by)...for veggies i use mostly green leaf types, spinach,greens.mustard or collards...the tripe really helps the dog with the veggie part of the diet...it really makes hitting a target weight easier also....US1
     
  18. ngomalungundu

    ngomalungundu Big Dog

    Brown rice (unbleached) cooked in a steamer

    or

    Barley cooked in a crock pot

    or

    black eyed peas

    add 1 cup of day of any one(1) of these items to your raw diet....

    plenty of carbs....and fiber.
     
  19. ngomalungundu

    ngomalungundu Big Dog

    the REASON a dog needs carbohydrates in their diet is that they have a part of their body called a glycogen cell. this cell packed with carbs will provide a booster for the first 30 minutes of a good hard workout.

    Glycogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  20. Green trip from GRASS FED COWS! Very good stuff, but smells like hell. I get mine from- http://www.greentripe.com/

    They have some good reading on their site and you can see them on the Discovery Channel's Dirty Jobs.

    I'm lucky, because they are within driving distance. They also have allot that they don't show on line. Very good prices on raw meaty bones.
     

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