diff blood diff style

What about hard mouths? is that a trait?

 

Yea but that isnt the same as breeding for a fightng style. Hard mouth dogs would be like a hard hitting person and is a trait that can be passed down.

 

Thanks Kayo

 

exactly.........hard hitting is hard hitting:cool:

 

im thinking style is mostly learned in schooling.adapting is the most important thing to learn.

 

If someone is breeding a family of dogs, that family CAN be of all the same style if the common ancestors were of all one style... Breeding ear/head dogs for example can be done and those genes can be passed on. I love a good offensive wrestling yet smart ear dog that switches to the chest once he has gained control and downed the prey. My red dogs are like this and they all share the same ear/head/face style.

 

bwahhh...........................................
some of yall kill me
ya breed good dogs to good dogs. You strangthin what you find is week in youre stock and you breed to fill voids. I.E. you breed for complete dogs.
You may like one style/trait that a certian family or beter yet individual dog has ben provin to throw consistantly in its offspring. The key is to keep that and improve on other areas. Being one dimentional in youre selection will give you one dimentional dogs. A dogs style is importain but only one of many things a good breeder should be breeding for.

 

Well this is how I see it, Breeders should breed whatever they like, their dogs, their blood, their feed, their money... If they want to breed strait hard hitting chest dogs then that's their right and choice if they want one sided dogs for their program, don't matter what I, Joe, you, or anyone thinks someone else should be doing to be honest.... Everybody have the choice not to get a dog from them, so they can breed and do w/e they want... You may not like it, but it doesn't make it wrong and your way isn't the only way everybody SHOULD do it.... I like head dogs, I prefer head dogs, and I want to keep my head dogs, head dogs...

Jm2c

 

you can't breed for style just like you can't breed for mouth. you can serch for it & hope for the best but thas about it. bottom line is they have it or they don't it's up to the man behind the dog to capitalize on what they have. if we had the ability to breed what we wanted into these dogs there wouldn't be any curs.

 

A short sweet answer is ...................NO. You breed for the OVERALL dog. Good dog to good dog.

 

A style is a trait like all others, and traits are and CAN be Bred for.... No different than color, size, or shape. If there's a solid family of ear dogs in your program then it CAN be bred for... Don't expect for dog that does not have a consistent family of ear dogs, that is one to consistently produce ear dogs..... BUT if 3 to 6 gens back of the same family are ear dogs and you breed back into the same family then your high chances are the pups will be ear dogs......

I have laid eyes on dogs 6 gen's deep (bred of the same family) that each dog from each generation had the same style.

IMO Ben, gameness is not a 'hard' trait per say but more of a type of personality feature, a 'soft' trait if you will (that is bred for)

 

I think you can but will you have the gameness that is a prized trait we breed for

if so breed me a yard full of dog that likes to swap out holds but loves to work the stifle as long as they are game

 

lol Im a believer in certain lines throwing certain base styles..but im also a firm believer in the schooling aspect..thats when a dog learns what works best for him/her and im just gonna go ahead and say i dont want a head rider if he's built for the chest/shoulders...lol

 

Says the paperhanging dilusional dude. Youre full of it Bobby. youre post are comical.

 

Whatever dude, its the way I see things and that's that mate... If you want to disagree then that's your way.

 

Bobby, I love those head fighters too. Ive had a bro and sister that would ignore the stifles and get back on the head. Funny their offspring did the same

 

F@#$ that ^^^

 

bobby style and trait are two diffrent things. game is a here and now thing it may be here today and gone tomarow. just look at all the dogs that went 3hr and stood in the next.thats the gamble my man. there is NO famley of dogs that go into certan spots the other charge dictates that as each charge is diffrent so each show is diffrent. 6 generations?

 

Ben think what you want but I stand by what I said. I am of the personal persuasion that a dogs style IS infact a trait that CAN be inherited and passed down, I've seen it... And yes Ben there ARE familys and lines that are known to be and have specific styles... In loose pedigree breeding this can not predicted as there are to many variables inside the lineage, but in a tight family bred dog if his ancestors were all the same style and same breeding then I would expect him to be the same in style. Are there exceptions, of course, theres no guarantee, but if the solid family a dog comes from were all head dogs and they all were family, I would bet that the dog is a head dog...

I've seen hot pups from a solid chest family scrap and grab only the chest hold at 5 weeks old, you can't school a pup like that he's running on instinct alone...

 

OK bobby if you say so bud. please tell us what family of dogs are known for there style? ........................PS dont let pups tell you shit becuase there just pups.