what bloodline throw which traits?

interesting thread. i was thinkng ab's as well when i read the OP's desires in a dog. good luck in your search.

 

I have to say the Plummers Ch Alligator line.

 

From studying pedigrees, I've noticed dogs of mainly Mayday (Yellow) blood were typically over 50lbs chain weight. I consider that large, definitely. Mayday was a freak! And although most of his offspring aren't nearly as huge, they are still big... but then again, I've seen just as many in the 40-50lb range. (Hell, I still consider that a bit on the larger side, lol.)

 

jaybird - i'll see in you belleville, gonna take the little girl I got to the two AADR shows comin up this spring and early summer You can see her in my gallery, keep your eye peeled for her at the show. Mr. Williams gave her sire enough points to be an aadr conf. ch. last year; maybe she'll show decent in that ring, too.

 

I hope you find what you are looking for, but here is a question; have you ever handled a 65-70lbs gamebred dog? It is not like walking a lab or boxer, they see a cat or another dog run in front of them and you really have to work to keep them under control, it isn't fun. And to be honest ignorant people are just as afriad of a 35-40lb APBT are they are a 65lb APBT.

 

jaybird - not all ABs are massive monsters. The Painter, Hines & Scott bred dogs are smaller, some even 65 - 75 & some look similiar to a white pit bull.

The only diff is APBTs were not bred to protect, while an AB will protect his a.. off.

 

then why not just adopt another one and be done with it if you're just looking for a pet? putting money into a working dog for no reason is kinda silly imo. sounds like another pound dog would suit you just fine for what you want. it's not like they are all garbage either. some i'm sure are very good dogs.

 

I agree. I suggest you read up/study on AB's. The Johnson line has fallen victim of being bred strictly for looks & size nothing more. And this is by the man himself. He ruined & is continuing to ruin his own dogs.

The other lines mentioned & even most of your hybrids are in the 60-90lb range.

And when did "catchweight pit bulls" become such a thing? I use my 35-55lb dogs as catch dogs & personally I've never seen any better (not better than my dogs but better out of that weight range). You don't have to have some oversized, out of standard, freak monster to catch a hog. That's just what the bybs & peddlers would like you to believe.

 

Yeah ill look for you nice dogs man they are beautiful i really like the amber one and aubrey.

 

Thanks for all the info i really appreciate it i am just tryin to make a wise choice before i buy anything, and i just may rescue another one as well. I just really enjoyed working the girl i had i will post pics of her on springpole if i can get them off my phone.I will also look into the ab's i must have just seen a lame one. The plumbers alligator i was lookin into but i noticed they had a few with over and under bites is this comon? they were exspensive for being defected also.Thanks again and i am not going to rush into anything i will go to show and continue to research because i will be spending hopefully 10 - 15 years with the dog. also will an ab get along with a pit if the pit insnt game bred say if i adopted a pit and purchased an ab?

 

Don't forget about the OFR's

 

If your considering an AB, dont get one that is white. All the AB that i have delt with have been primarely white and all had skin conditions and or allergies! Ab also require a strong hand from the start.

 

Most ABs are white or mostly white. If you saw a white AB that has a genetic fault it was a fluke.

Here is a link to the ABA AB standard:
http://www.american-bulldog.com/aba_standard.htm

jaybird - if you want to know more about ABs, PM Mia. I think she owns an AB.

 

Ive seen many AB with skin conditions and or allergies. fluke maybe or maybe not.

 

hey thanks for all the info im heading to new york tonite and will check up on the info tomorow thanks again

 

sounds like you will think it through before you act so good luck. as far as the ab and the apbt getting along, i'd have to say no. even if one is submissive to the other eventually you will have a fight imo. supervised time together only would be the way i went. my buddy had both and had a yard accident or two.

 

From what I understand some of the "standard" AB lines had pit bull blood infused into them. As a result, some standard ABs can be dog aggressive.

So I would treat a standard AB the same as I would a pit bull when it came to dog aggression.

I once had a hybrid (Scott/Johnson cross) that was given to me by the guy that has the 130 AB. I ended up having to get rid of her b/c she was always messing w/ my bulldogs.

Plus, ppl thought she was just a huge white pit bull, which didn't do me any good since I was trying to keep ppl away from my yard instead of attracting them to it.

So she ended up w/ my landlord's mother. Several ppl have tried to steal her, but thus far no stranger has been able to get their hands on her & draw back all 10 fingers.

A standard style AB:



Here is a vid of what appear to be standard style or hybrid style (I can't tell which) ABs working:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z8bIOsxqHkQ&mode=related&search=

 

Every AB has APBT blood in it somewhere.

 

I guess that depends on who you ask. Some believe that the AB is the original English bull baiting bulldog (before it got deformed) & has no APBT blood.