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Your experience with Hemphill dogs

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by CLKENNELS, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Staub

    Staub Big Dog

    I have a Valhalla(Mayo)/Morgan cross female. She is an amazing little dog with a solid temperament and high prey drive. I got mine from Mike and was originally supposed to get a pure Morgan pup but I'm glad I got the cross. If I breed my girl it will be to the same cross. Every dog I've met from the Valhalla, Mayo, and Morgan line has drive and loves people which is what I think of when I think OFRN dogs. I have a lot of faith in these folks in Florida and I will continue to keep their lines in the future.
     
  2. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I have heard alot of good things about those whom hog hunt with the morgan family of dogs,,,
    solid temperament and high prey drive and are very biddable in the field with others...

    Thanks for the short story Staub,,,
    any more on your little female and/or pics would be great...

    I will admit I always loved some of the different looks of these red dogs and Valhalla kennels look to have some good lookers and pullers,,,
    any from that line hunting hogs that you know about???
     
  3. Staub

    Staub Big Dog

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    This is my girl at about 2 years. Her sire is Mayo's(Valhalla's) Leviticus and her dam is Morgan's Red Wine. Red Wine is actually a quarter of Mike's Boyles stuff and the rest his OFRN. I have heard three people talk highly of Levi's ability on hogs and I'm sure there are other's I only know about him because of talking to folks about how my dog is bred. Mike really talked him up and said that's why he made the cross.
     
  4. CrazyHorse

    CrazyHorse Big Dog

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  5. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    how was the gr ch berry dog bred,,, do you know???

    as far as Morgan my high school buddy got a dog off luckyson(gr ch lucky stripe-ex-baby)...
    we heard that the ofrn crosses Hiawasse kennels had were good so er sought them out with no avail,,,
    but mr morgan had the luckyson dog bred to some of his stock and my friend got a pup...
    somebody else down the line got the dog and said they couldnt be happier with it,,, I dont see the ped online...
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=121474
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=53543
    we were dissapointed he wasnt tight ofrn but look back now and glad as the crosses seemed better...

    luck stripe was a great dog but not such producer...
     
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  6. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    Some heavy Staber and Big Boy in those lines! Might have worked with A heavy Staber gyp!?
     
  7. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Thanks for sharing the pic of a great looking dog Staub to go with that short storey,,, very nice addition...
     
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  8. chef_kergin

    chef_kergin Big Dog

  9. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

  10. RobR73

    RobR73 Big Dog

    Nice looking dog Staub. That bloodline is all over the Tampa area and I had the opportunity too speak with the people running it......albeit very briefly. Mine is bred differently but prey drive and the ability to work is a trait. My boy would work all day long if I didn't intervene, I'm sure your's is the same.
     
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  11. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I sure like the STABBER blood behind the HELLBEND dogs...
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=2364

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=3496

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=26159
    perhaps one of the best STABBER bred producers since Bert Clouses day...

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=2962
    not to mention the ofrn fused to the old clouse family,,,

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=300

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=2960

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=520639

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=61052

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=489062

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=419671

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=49671

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=9076

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=62452

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=301982

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=22153

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=304830
     
  12. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    I heard once Staber made 4, nobody wanted A piece of him,, collected at least one forfeit! The fastest dog on 4 legs at that time!
     
  13. chef_kergin

    chef_kergin Big Dog

    inquire with the owner, they aren't normally parked behind a keyboard.
    Call him and ask, his number is public and the man has taken more time out of his day for my stupid questions the last 9 years than I would expect anyone to...I'm sure he'd answer your calls too...
     
  14. CrazyHorse

    CrazyHorse Big Dog

  15. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

  16. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

    What? No they don't. Do you know how to read a pedigree. Geronimo only appears ONCE in Ch. Iron Spike R.O.M. pedigree on his mother side.
    No other "Pure" Norrod dogs have Geronimo in them. Surely Gr. Ch. Koko didn't!
    Norrod's Ironline Kennels dogs are 50%+ Corvino coming through Ross' Red Devil R.O.M. 8xw. Red Devil bloodline traces back to Bruce's Jerry who in his era was tightest of the imported OFR.

    Not do not confuse Ironline Kennels with Old Family Kennel dogs.
     
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  17. C2K

    C2K Top Dog


    That's not true. Stabber was never matched nor was his brother Rocky. Both died at Frank Creed's house. Stabber was buried in Frank's front yard.
    Most don't know a lot of Stabber's breeding was done by Frank, i.e. Patrick's Goldie (dam of Patrick's Red Baby R.O.M.)
    Frank only wanted the dog because the Corvino in him through Clouse's Wakki and Clouse's Fanny.
     
  18. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

    BTW Gr. Ch. Hellbend bloodline goes back into Michael Martin's stock from AL. Michael's stock was a combo of Judge and Humpy who those two were based off Clouse Stabber but also Clouse's Ch. Butcher Boy.
     
  19. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

    Hold up, I knew Erving Holmes aka Chicken Sam really well, in all those years I knew him he NEVER had Brownlow dogs, Erving used Carver dogs, in fact when Maurice died he was near Erving's home where he passed. Brownlow never dog his OFRN until middle 1970's. All his stock trace back to Geronimo II.
    Does any of you know when that dog was born? I DO! Brownlow was NOT a 1960's dogman.......
    Bob Hemphill wasn't breeding dogs in the late 60's because he died in 1967 and he was cutting down in dogs greatly by 1966.

    OH one more thing, on uTube with Bobby Lemm talking about his mills and how Chicken Sam had 3 of them, if you look around you will see Gr. Ch. Koko's littermate brother Ch. Flash working on a Lemm mill, that is the same bitch's mill Bobby is speaking about in his video of Sam's. It was a gift to Maurice from Bobby and Erving borrowed it and sold it to YKW. lol
     
  20. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    ^^^^^ Never used Brownlow dogs interesting!? I think a lot of people would say otherwise! I knew CS very well myself, went by his house quite A bit traveling back and forth from Houston to Galveston! I am not saying he used them exclusively BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT HE DID test and match several! AS far as Mr. Brownlow I never meet him! Houston was flooded with those dogs early mid 70's I could be wrong but I think Gator Lou was Brownlow, I THINK!
     

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