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Youngsters

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by the.peon, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    Let's see them young up n comers on the yard, folks 18 months n younger that are showing promise.
     
  2. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    Is that a trick posting? According to a lot of guys on here since I joined a few days ago, a dog can't show "promise" or be a "good one" at 18 months lol. However, I know they can if you know what your looking at or looking for. What do you think Peon?
     
  3. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    I said son, I can tell by the fire in his eyes the arch in his back the gait in his trot and the size of his balls if he is going to be a goodun LMAO.
     
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  4. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Speedo, I thought I firmly entrenched in you that it's the size of their shit.
     
  5. Looooooooooooool
     
  6. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    Saiyagin lmao!!! Awesome brother! Hilarious and true lol
     
  7. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    That's why I said showing promise. I feel if you know the blood you are keeping you can tell if one is showing promise. Seeing one that's showing promise is in my opinion much different than knowing that a certain up n comer will without a doubt be a "good one". I have two youngsters that I believe to be showing promise. Doesn't mean that I'm positive they will infact be "good ones".
     
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  8. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    Although there are those that have proven to be good ones out there before they have reached 18 months of age.
     
  9. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    Well I'm glad to hear you say that man. That's my logic also. Although I'm not the most knowledgable or have the most train and keen eye. I feel after half of my life being around these dogs and owning them, I can tell if a youngster shows promise or what a "good bulldog" is supposed to be as a adult. Especially if it's your own line as you said. If you can't, you really have no business breeding or anything else in my opinion. 18 months is plenty of time to show promise. Some just develope or show faster than others, then some take years. That to can depend on your line as im sure you all know. Some lines are known for late starters.
     
  10. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    I completely agree, G4G. I'm sure folks with more experience like TDK n Dred need nowhere near 18 months to tell if one is showing promise.
     
  11. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    i only say this because I have a dog about 2-1/2yrs old. I said he was a good one and I'm also going to see if he can produce and some fellas on here jumped all over it telling me that it's crazy to call a dog that age "good" let alone breed him. Problem I have with that, is not their opinion, that's perfectly fine. But they never laid eyes on this dog in person. So why pass that judgment I don't know. I mean, when you are sifting through a litter to pick out a pup. You pick the one that shows promise. Even at a couple months old. Why can't you tell that with a dog you been feeding for 2yrs? Otherwise, when you go to pick out a pup from a litter. Why not just get the pretty one? Because you "See" something inside the little fella that looks promising. Am I right or wrong?
     
  12. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    It's your dog. If you feel he/she is a good one that's all that matters. What others have to say is of little or no value especially if they've never seen the animal in question.
     
  13. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    I dont care if a dog shows me promise, what I care about is if he KEEPS that PROMISE. LMAO
     
  14. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    Right on Peon. Fist bump! Haha.
     
  15. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Peon, yes, I certainly know what you are talking about. But as with all things, these things also come with some measure of qualification.

    For instance, all I would look for in a pup is mental and physical stability. Health. It being a pretty pup is nice because I will be looking at it for quite awhile every day as it matures. LOL I do believe that if someone is looking for grown trait possibilities in something infant, then they are wishfully thinking or as I like to say, panning for fools gold. Pups, IMO have nothing they can show you that translates to what they will be in maturity. IMO, mental, emotional and physical health is all one can really see in an infant.

    As far as "signs" in a younger dog, yes, we often either see them or think we do. If what you are referring to, my friend, is having what appears to be a head that is screwed on straight as an adolescent, then I agree. We can also wishfully think on that issue as well. I think many of us have done that one.

    One thing I do approve of in an adolescent dog is a mere set to for a few seconds. On the chain is best IMO. What my intentions are in these scenarios is to let the adolescent dog merely know that his instincts are the correct ones. No more than that. I'm not asking anything of it. Just seeing and giving it a youthful, seriously brief reward for his apparent wants.

    One thing I don't believe a lot of people with younger dogs understand so I stress the hell out of it, and that is: When a dog may "start" and when a dog actually matures, are two completely different times and phases of its life. I think if one realizes this and adheres to the fact, they will understand schooling better, and do better stage setting for the dog's maturation and experience process. Seeing one I know damned well will start, even at puppy age range, doesn't mean I will do it. I've never let a dog or pup do my thinking FOR me.

    So, do I get the gist of what you're saying? Surely do and I agree, but I felt it needed to consider some of the judiciousness needed to go along with it and hope it helps some itchy young'n consider the gamut of possibilities with these younger dogs before ill wittingly going cock strong into possibly ruining a potentially good thing.
     
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  16. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    I can dig it, Saiy.
     
  17. Game4Glory

    Game4Glory Banned

    TDK I agree and makes perfect sense. As far as what I was saying about seeing something in a pup, that was it. You just said it way better. And I've heard of folks ruining a good dog based on what you said with starting and maturing being a difference. I couldn't agree more with that to. Very sound advice buddy.
     
  18. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    Once again, TDK, a very well writen and spot on post, my friend. Thanks for chiming in.
     
  19. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Good luck with them Peon !
     
  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    As always, great post, TDK. You break it down for anybody to understand, I love it!
     

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