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Why Animals Don't Have Right's

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by AmericanDogMan, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Quasimodo

    Quasimodo Big Dog

    Ehm didn't the dutch (the ones that cleaned up ALOT of oil spill)offer their aid? or the Norwegians that offered their expertise? Again animals are inferior to humans so we do agree on that one..
     
  2. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    Hey, I been sendin some little girl in Bolivia $50 a month for four years plus extra for her birthday and Christmas..........that's gotta count for something. :)
     
  3. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    did the spokesperson on tv have a white beard YB? lol

    c'mon man them folks aint no different then the HS, granted they dont turn around & kill the kids theyre advertising, but its still all about the mulah that them kids on tv will never see!
     
  4. venom

    venom Top Dog

    Religion has a lot to do with animal rights...this guy is saying the only reasoning behind us dominating animals is because it says so in the Torah or other religious texts. I guess we should throw out all the other things religion deems sinful too, yeah?
     
  5. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    LOL......no man I signed up with one of them bleeding hearts table advertisers. It's cool though, she writes me letters and sends pictures and tells me what they all get (her and her family) with the money.
     
  6. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    No cause we were given a right to chose. IMO God is the only one who can judge me.
     
  7. CLKENNELS

    CLKENNELS Top Dog

    Exactly....
    I wise man that goes by the name of Bun B once stated and I quote:

    "MotherFuck the judge,prosecutor and DA"

    But anyway,If any human being thinks that an animal/pet deserves to be treated equally as another human, you are very fucked up in the head and should go eat a bottle of Roxies and hop on the freeway...
     
  8. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Re: Why Animal's Don't Have Right's

    Your right... and you have morals and a heart

    But my chicken had feelings to and my dinner was good tonight.
     
  9. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Re: Why Animal's Don't Have Right's

    Your a reasonable man and that's a reasonable definition... But it's not the definition of the Crazies

    From wiki:Animal welfare is the physical and psychological state of non-human animals.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> The term animal welfare can also mean human concern for animal welfare or a position in a debate on animal ethics and animal rights.<sup id="cite_ref-Francione_1-0" class="reference">[2]</sup>
    Systematic concern for animal welfare can be based on awareness that non-human animals are sentient and that consideration should be given to their well-being, especially when they are used for food, in animal testing, as pets, or in other ways.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup> These concerns can include how animals are killed for food, how they are used for scientific research, how they are kept as pets, and how human activities affect the survival of endangered species.
    An ancient object of concern in some civilizations, animal welfare began to take a larger place in western public policy in 19th century Britain. Today it is a significant focus of interest or activity in veterinary science, in ethics, and in animal welfare organizations.


    From wiki:
    Animal rights, also referred to as animal liberation, is the idea that the most basic interests of non-human animals should be afforded the same consideration as the similar interests of human beings.<sup id="cite_ref-EB3_2-0" class="reference">[3]</sup> Advocates approach the issue from different philosophical positions, but agree that animals should be viewed as non-human persons and members of the moral community.<sup id="cite_ref-lead_1-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> They argue that human beings should stop seeing other sentient beings as property—not even as property to be treated kindly.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup>


    To me no difference... Your still telling a man how to use his personal property: it's called progressivism (my word)..lol.

    But seriously where does it stop. How you kill animals for food (what difference would that make)

    Property is not yours if someone has final say so over it. It becomes communal (who runs the commune; where does it stop)

    I want one legal reason...
     
  10. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    I agree... where does it stop. We have to accept as humans we are at the top of food chain... And you can't legislate morals

    Otherwise we could legislate that everyone have to be christian; or Buddhist
     
  11. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Do we have the right to destroy a family over dog's or chicken's

    Years in prison
     
  12. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Yes you can... We have laws legislating emotional abuse (domestic violence)

    Restraining order and lawsuits (Mental Anguish)

    What if they all of a sudden made it a imprisonable offense (it is in canada)

    wiki
    Canada

    Main article: Hate speech laws in Canada
    In Canada, advocating genocide or inciting hatred<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference">[9]</sup> against any 'identifiable group' is an indictable offence under the Criminal Code of Canada with maximum terms of two to fourteen years. An 'identifiable group' is defined as 'any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.' It makes exceptions for cases of statements of truth, and subjects of public debate and religious doctrine. The landmark judicial decision on the constitutionality of this law was R. v. Keegstra (1990).

    Thats right up to 5 years in prison for upsetting someone with your speech.

    Hate speech has been used to imprison reporters
     
  13. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Humans have rights... You can get the shit out of him by isolating him... Not doing business with him... Humans have otehr means of punishment than violence.

    However legal argument for why Animals have rights...
    Or why someone has no recourse to use their property as they feel.
     
  14. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Re: Why Animal's Don't Have Right's

    Chinese eat dog's... You dont get a bigger culture than that over a billion people.
    Dog meat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    More than 1/3 of the earth's populations eats dog on a regular basis.

    No legal argument in site. I say it's illegal for another reason. Its systematic break down of American Liberty

    In America we have to take the Good the Bad and the Ugly
     
  15. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    best point so far.

    If it's property then what... Why does the commune have the right to infringe on personal property.

    Commune yea... I think it's something else going on... The fur mommies arent in on this one...

    Because there is no legal reason... They want to control you... They want to eugenically weed thru the population... Imprison.

    There isnt one good legal reason why animals can have a family ripped apart and individuals imprisoned for years
     
  16. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Good point Billion's spent on Animal Welfare(right's) throughout the world

    how many children good one animal cop or director of the hsus salary pay to feed the children if it's only 20cents a day like Sally says.
    </where>
     
  17. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    ADM if you can't tell the difference between AW & AR your up a shit creek without a paddle. hell i didn't need wiki to understand there's a BIG difference & don't think anyone with common sense would eather. the " crazy's" can say what they want & spin it how they please. but it don't change the truth. AW is a good thing & should be administrerd as the individual see fit. a fella wants to let his livestock live in sqaller fine by me because i ain't buying his beef. im buying quality beef from the fella that does things right.
     
  18. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    it's possible there born into poverty and lack financial education. You dont learn that in school. And they never picked up a science. I say there's plenty of little businessmen in the ghettoes and backwoods of America, that dont have good business to tend to...

    O say like Dog's or Chicken's or running Number's... Something cool to a young man like that...
    (People had a better chance of winning when it was in the neighborhood; B4 my time...)...

    But not one legal argument for why Animal's have right's
    It's systematic... Where are the job's for the regular's that don't like ologies... How much Money would dog's bring if it were like MMA.

    I have my argument (Personal Property or Not)... Do we have the right to legislate non human to human morals.

    Why not Religion???

    Because it's wrong to infringe on another man's right to do with his life as he please.

    To destroy families and give year's in prison over Animal's
     
  19. Dreamer

    Dreamer Big Dog

    Re: Why Animal's Don't Have Right's

    Yes they do. Not THIS culture though.

    We must be vigilant about the AR agenda (trying to do away with eating meat, no dogs as pets - that kind of over the top crap); but I don't see the (loosely enforced) cruelty laws we DO have as over the top.

    Dreamer
     
  20. AmericanDogMan

    AmericanDogMan Big Dog

    Destrying the stock market would fix the economy (the fed 1913.. First depression 1929)

    Innovation happened without interference in America. Because of Freedom of thought... The good the bad the ugly.

    They dont want an honest free man to make money.

    They dont want you to make food they dont give you.

    Otherwise why... Why sell out for power to get more power because of Crazies.... Why let them normalize their message...

    When their obvious goal is the eradication of Animal Protein from our diet...

    Studies show if it was evolution and not God... that animal protein is why we have reasoning and strength

    [SIZE=+1]Meat-eating was essential for human evolution, says UC Berkeley anthropologist specializing in diet[/SIZE]
    http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

    The Human Brain - Proteins

    Homocysteine is an amino acid created in the body from the metabolism of methionine, an essential amino acid obtained from animal protein. ...
    The Human Brain - Proteins

    Where is the legal argument....
     

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