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Stud production

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by slowstarter, Jul 3, 2016.

  1. slowstarter

    slowstarter Big Dog

    When do you stop breeding your stud because he is not producing? What is a good number to do a field study? I have been watching people with multiple studs and it seems like they get around 10 litters then sit and wait for the outcome? Can someone please explain some techniques for finding a good producer?
     
  2. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    I don't believe there is a number. I believe it depends on how the dog was kept his stud. The better you take care of your dogs, the more you should get out of them. Jm2c
     
  3. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    Most people don't believe this but the gyp is over 50% of what hits the ground! A male that is the fastest on four legs and won multipal races is no garunteee he will produce! Believe me over the last 40+ years I have been disappointed more than once! When I see A great dog II'm looking for the one that produced it! Especially if the stud is from multiple outcrosses!
     
  4. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Agree strongly,, I was taught long ago, if a man has a good bitch, he can pick from any number of good studs & not worry about the other half.. Meaning as you said that 50% , not enough give the ol gal credit or a second thought..
     
  5. slowstarter

    slowstarter Big Dog

    At what point do you say this dog is not producing? 1 litter that goes 0-6 and then you say screw him? Just say you breed to two females that have produced on previous litters and this time one goes 0-5 and the other female and your stud get 1 ch and no other winners.
     
  6. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    hard to say but I wouldnt judge on just one litter,,, perhaps three...

    alot of variables,,,
    say the couple semen that make it carry the good gene and find the right golden egg,,,
    this might happen on the first cast or the last and odds are always in numbers...

    I would look for that lucky breeding pair and repeat till the wheels fall off...

    as far as what stud is consistently producing is the one that you seek,,,
    they are far and few and usually produce in every litter...

    I rather pay a higher stud fee for a proven producer that others have done the foot work with than
    taking a gamble on a whole litter off a stud thats unproven...

    And as trotline mentioned the dam is often overlooked as being an equal in breeding evaluations...
     
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  7. slowstarter

    slowstarter Big Dog

    Im with all of you and I get all angles. EP know my goal i am trying to accomplish. I got 14 offspring from the same stud and the oldest are 12 months old and I love them, but I also have other females coming ino heat. Do I wait on the oldest crew to get of age before I breed the stud again or do I keep sticking him? The females are good dogs and the lines I have produce the over used term HOT PUPS so I can't say he is producing because how the pups act I can't lie to me.
     
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  8. promoe

    promoe Premium Member Premium Member

    Sit on em and wait..i would be hard fckng pressed to filled 14 chainspots thinking none of them would have made the grade.. let them mature ,dont be uncle sam and send them off to war at 15! As far as repeat breeding.. what are the percentages that they are better than the first? Patience...i tell folks all the time not to pollute the world with more trash unless they have to. atleast you are asking the right questions. i think you knew the answer. its not the amount of pups persay ..there are alot of variables.
     
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  9. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    One is not truly and experienced dogman unless he has jacked off a dog for A.I. semen collection. LMAO
     
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  10. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    Thats a good one!
     
  11. promoe

    promoe Premium Member Premium Member

    low blow sai! some of us dont have access to the cum dumpster your used to!
     
  12. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    ...PATIENCE is a VIRTUE...
    ...anything thats worth while,,, takes time to manifest itself...
     
  13. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    Moe it aint about the access, just the EXPERIENCE....go out side use any male in your yard and just do it for the experience and you will be in the Elite category of dogmen. LOL Gloves is optional. LMAO

    Warning do not perform oral unless you are into beastiality. LMAO
     
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  14. promoe

    promoe Premium Member Premium Member

    ill be honest once you go AI youll never wanna deal with a mouthy bitch or a fight crazy male. Glove or not ill help that SOB just so i dont have to duct one to a stand.
     
  15. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    Exactly I totally agree with you.
     
  16. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member


    LMAO...this shit was so funny.
     
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  17. jstevens

    jstevens Premium Member Premium Member

    could you elaborate, about the stud being from multiple outcrosses. just trying to pick up a little knowledge.
     
  18. Thunder98

    Thunder98 Big Dog

    I would ike to known as well Trot, what are the chances a dog can reproduce preprod thats from multiple outcrosses..just wondering
     
  19. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    He means he's looking for the dog that produced the multicross dog.
     
  20. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    I wrote that in A hurry, what I meant to say is A stud like Stu Fowler, or King Solomon. Not because they were famous dogs, but they could produce with A good gyp from different families. I just used those two as an example there were and are great producing dogs famous and ones nobody knows about. Whether you breed more gyps or not just depends on how many chain spots you can have. Good Luck
     

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