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Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by NewDogg09, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    I own this dvd and I agree its a good overall dvd on the breed. I think the realest person on there was the lady with the red dogs who did french ring. I dont agree with that type of work with our dogs but the lady definatly understood the breed and told it like it was.
  2. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    Dont call me ignorant because my informed opinion differs from youres. I do understand the sport and I am far from ignorant on the subject. IMO the last thing the outside public who are truely ignorant on both our breed and K-9 bite sports, needs to see is a apbt biteing a human in any way shape or form. Need it be controled to flesh or onto a sleave.
  3. KY BOY

    KY BOY Pup


  4. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Top Dog

    You are an exception, because the usual reason I hear is that it teaches human aggression which is just so far from the truth. However, I just don't understand where you're coming from. If someone is that stupid that they can't look past the biting to all the control behind it, the obedience and tracking work, then fuck them. Are we not supposed to use chains, treadmills, flirtpoles, springpoles, etc. because the ignorant see it as dog fighting paraphernalia, too? I don't see your logic. I'm all for promoting a positive image but I'm not going to keep my future dogs in a bubble just for images sake.

    A responsible dog owner, getting their dog involved in a sport or activity should not be ashamed of what they are doing. But that's JMHO.
  5. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    I have no problem keeping it real with the public and telling them that given the slightest chance my bulldog as friendly as he is,will eat there fluffball. Any type of aggressive act controled or not controled on a human is bad for our breed IMO.
  6. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Top Dog

    But its not aggression, its play or prey drive.

    I'd like to do French ring sport with my next dog. Guess what, the general public is not going to be seeing that. The only people that will see it are educated members of the sport and if they have a problem with APBTs, at least they understand the sport isn't about aggression.
  7. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    A Schutzhund would probably suck at real life personal protection. The dogs view the whole thing as a game, the aggression is to the sleeve, not the person wearing the sleeve. Which is why they're trained to target the sleeve.
  8. BringBackup

    BringBackup Top Dog

    Ok, this is an excellent point.

    I'm sick and tired of people using the "These sports are bad for the APBT's public image". No, no they aren't. I train my dog for French Ring/PSA and I can say with certainty that NO ONE knows my dog does bite work unless I tell them he does. I could remove my videos off youtube and pictures off photobucket, and bam...my effect on the APBT image is eradicated. Because cry about how ugly this sport looks to Joe Public, if he isn't within my circle or has knowledge about the sport, he doesn't know it's even happening. Actually, most people I've talked to at events and in pet stores don't know what Schutzhund is so I am really not worried about it.
  9. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    I understand this.
  10. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    Look folks there youre dogs to do with what ya want. I say if ya want a dog for that kinda work there are already breeds out there built for the task. I dont agree with it plain and simple. There is no changeing my mind and there are plenty of folks in the breed who agree with me. To each there own.
  11. fblb

    fblb Top Dog

    I never understood using a screwdriver in place of a hammer.
  12. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    exactamundo filth!!!
  13. Nikita

    Nikita Big Dog

    Im sorry but i don't see your logic RedGoodbye Just because a German Shepherd Dog dose Schutzhund docent mean he will bite people same goes for a APBT i dont see why it would even be different and like Bringbackup said the average joe dose not even know you do it unless you tell them.
  14. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    My logic is there are other breeds better suited for the sport. Just as the apbt is better suited for the pit. You may dissagre but the consept/logic is not hard to grasp.try reading my post again :)
  15. cutt

    cutt CH Dog

    im pretty sure if u swing that handle hard enuff, ur bound to hit somthing..bwaaaahaha
  16. fblb

    fblb Top Dog

    So using a German Shepherd dog for the box would make sense to you then?
  17. deebo780

    deebo780 Big Dog

    I have a very informative APBT book (not going to tell you the name) from the 80's referring a whole chapter to Shutzhund, and many of these dogs broke records....
  18. fblb

    fblb Top Dog

    Good for you...keep on reading books.
  19. catchdog

    catchdog Top Dog

    i have that book, and i too am not going to tell you the name of it, well ,maybe tomorrow, we'll see
  20. my dogs all get trained in shutzhund. gives em a fun game to play and a little extra disipline

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