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Potential great heavyweight lineal fight Saturday night...

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BronerFan, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    i swear i thought he wasdead
     
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  2. SMD760

    SMD760 Big Dog

    Although he is tall and awkward, it was a lot more than that. there was a lot of high level stuff going on! I really enjoyed that fight but felt fury won all but the two knockdown rounds. Love the attitude of both after the fight!
     
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  3. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Fury was knocked out cold, just not for 10 seconds #:-SI checked the knock down count 3 x on my stopwatch from moment Fury hit the canvas until he got back up and 'he did' get up inside 10 seconds, fucked if I know how he did it, but cross-reference the time he's down with the ref's finger count and again Fury was up inside 10 seconds! I understand people see different things in fights but I believe Fury exposed Deontey Wilder's boxing limitations and sank his 'baddest on the planet' reputation.. Watch Wilder's face during the fight, he's living a nightmare in there! Watch him rely on that big right hand cuz it's the only tool in his box.. I could almost heard him say 'why don't you just stay down Fury! ~X( I think Wilder panicked because he couldn't knock Fury out and damn sure Anthony Joshua will have seen it too!
     
  4. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Tyson ‘Dozer’ Fury =D>
     
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  5. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    100% Game to the bone! =D>
     
  6. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Game showing, but he didn’t beat that count. His back hit the canvas at 2:21, he was on a knee still getting up at 2:11-2:12. You have to BEAT the 10 count! You can’t get up AT or BY 8 and beat a 10 count!! The count starts when a fighter’s glove, knee, or ass hit the canvas. The ringside counter starts, then the ref picks up the count. Ignore the ref and look at the clock when he fell. Next check time when he STOOD up, not rolled onto a knee. It takes a second or 2 to get off the mat
     
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  7. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    The ref gave the respect to the fight, not the rules... He gave Fury a Ch chance to finish.
     
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  8. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    on the video , it looked like he was down at 2:21 ,,,and was up at 2:11 ,,going by countdown on the screen
     
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  9. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    You have to BEAT the 10. If you are gettin up as the ref is saying “8” then you’re not going to be standing and okayed by 10. He was on his back rolling over at the 8 count. He didn’t face the ref til 2:10.
     
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  10. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Fury “won” the fight tho. A different ref and he wouldn’t have made that count at all
     
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  11. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    The timer on video I saw counted downwards from 3 minutes to zero, meaning that zero signified the end of a round.. 40 seconds into round 12 Tyson Fury was knocked to the canvas (out cold) the count down timer stated there was 2.21 of the round left to go, Fury got back to his feet at 2.11 making the time lapsed exactly 10 seconds, he made direct eye contact with the referee while he was on his back and again on the way back up, signifying that he was ok.. Also the referee picked up on time keepers count at ringside, he clearly displayed that count on his fingers and again Fury was back up on his feet inside 10 seconds.. In both dogs and boxing, whether we agree or not, the referee's word is final!
     
  12. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion

    referees been making bad calls in all the sports NBA NFL UFC it's getting out of control people careers on the line
     
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  13. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Agreed!
     
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  14. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    People still don’t like the fact that a fat gypsy took 2 years off then cameback and proved he’s one of the best heavyweights in at least 15 -20 years he won nine rounds of that fight.boxing corruption at its best.
     
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  15. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    I like Deontay because he is a freak athlete! 6’7 212-215 fight weight DROPPIN BOYS 30# heavier!! I LOVE IT!! He started his career LATE and has accomplished a lifetime in such a “short” 10yr pro career. He will NEVER be as polished as a “lifer” boxer, but I respect the hell outta what he’s done!

    Fury is in the 3-4 best heavyweights in the world. Ortiz, Joshua, and any rando are the other 3. Maybe Big Baby Davis
     
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  16. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    100% correct sir!!
     
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  17. Gamness!
     
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  18. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I agree on the state of corruption in boxing today, the points scoring in both Golovkin v Canello contests totally unbelievable but c_note was right saying a different referee would have stopped the fight the second Fury was dropped in the 12th.. Back in the day if Deoney Wilder was a Don King fighter and Richard Steel was referee, the fight would have been stopped as soon as Fury went down and few of us would have cause for complaint (I still can't believe Fury's chin and powers of recovery) so in regards to the referee in Wilder v Fury, I think he's probably one of the fairest and most professional refs I seen.. If that bout had been held in UK would an English ref have given Wilder a chance to recover and continue if he'd gone down? (doubt it!) Would European judges have scored in favour of Tyson Fury? Probably! Also worth remembering the carnage in London after Marvin Hagler won the middle weight title aganst Alan Minter in 1980.. Chairs, bottles, beer cans rained into the ring and Hagler swore he'd never fight in UK again.
     
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  19. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    No doubt but the fairest referees Tyson has been in the ring with are usually American/Canadian anything other than British or European. He’s only been treated a little bit better this past few months but he’s hated here by a lot of fans who are drooling over aj. A guy who’s had as many cherry picked fights as his completely corrupt manager can get him. Also there was an agreement between fans/family of fury that they wouldn’t start a riot unless Tyson said too. People don’t realise how close the staples centre camecto being burned out lol.
     
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  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    The UK fans seem to be the same hooligans that show up at soccer/football games.

    They are a little more die hard than the American fan. LOL

    I have yet to watch the fight but my buddy who is much more of an in-depth fan said it was a classic American heavyweight fight. He felt at a neutral sight Fury made a true statement in the ring as the winner but in America, the heavyweight champ has to be knocked out to win. Being the champ, with two solid knock downs, it was a no-brainer at the bell.

    Boxing has been on slide since the 70's, the UFC picked up the same bad habits just on a much slippery slope. In both sports the judges have no experience in the ring or around the game and the score cards usually verify the fact they are not even a casual fan.

    Three people who are lifelong participants can't be a draw on one card and and two cards four rounds apart in opposite directions. There can still be draws and split decisions but truly knowledgeable people judging will have results in a tighter window.

    I would think if my ass and my livelihood were on the line and I am negotiating my next fight, who is holding my nads in their hands would be a big part of the talks....just saying... LOL

    S
     
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