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fake peds

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by darlo, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. darlo

    darlo Banned

    why do some people find it necessary to fake peds
    i bought a dog in 89 an just found out how it was properly bred today lol
    dont get me wrong i was very happy with him an his papers means nowt now
    but i still goes on why
     
  2. because of money, some lads will say anything to sell there pups, it sad but true
     
  3. KDW

    KDW Native Nightmare Premium Member

    copied from another staff topic

     
  4. Aarsbaard

    Aarsbaard Pup

    Do you mean fake KC peds or fake hand written peds?
     
  5. darlo

    darlo Banned

    hand written fella
    i knew the father of the pup (brock) but it was his grandad s ped thats come to light
     
  6. redneck

    redneck Pup

    will buck the usual trend and say fake peds dont bother me that much. likewise i wouldnt loose sleep if i had to put a pedigree on a dog that wasnt real.
    if i got a dog whose ped was wrong, its because i wasnt close enough to the people and if you got one from me that was bent, it would have been because of the same thing. dont believe many pedigrees anyway, they are all full of lies.
    many reasons why people do it, sure we all know most of them
     
  7. Blanco

    Blanco Big Dog

    Well,as long as your happy with your dog than f*uck the ped. If it's a real bulldog it doesnt matter
     
  8. odinslad

    odinslad Big Dog

    i can remember years back of a bloke round our way who bought a alsation , when he showed me the papers it was a hand written one , but dog did seem ok for the standard of dog it was , but my advice is as follows
    1 do your homework on the dog you are looking at as their is some people out their who just dont give a f**k what they are selling as mentioned befor will tell you what you want to hear .
    2 get contact numbers address of people who is selling incase of any comebacks as it is easyer to confront them if you need be .
    3 ask to see the both parents & papers of both dogs before you buy , parents will give you a good idea on what your dog is going to turn out like in the future .
    4 ask what age the bitch is & if she has had any litters before as you are looking at a bitch to be at least 2 years old & never had a litter before as you will get the out of that bitch as she will be ready for breeding any younger then the bitch hasnt fully matured yat ( my own opinion )
    5 if the bitch has been bread in 6 mounth intervals then keep away from it as the best of the bitch will be taken out of her ( my own opinion )
    6 ask if their has been any health problems within the mother father as these genes can be passed on tom the litter .


    these are my opinions on buying a pup & remember it is you who is buying the dog & parting with the money so do your homework first , i have been looking high & low for the right dog & what ive seen would make you laugh from a bloke in south london with photos of realy nice looking dogs but when i was ready to buy & asked the right questions the bloke started to change his story from him owning this fine looking staff that he said he was offered £5000 for not long ago to comeing out with the dog wasnt his so he couldnt show me the dog when i was going to pick up my pup ???.

    i also found out later whilst looking on other sites that he was selling 2 year old bitches not 1 but 2 that he had to ( rehome ) due to circumstances ? but was advertising pups on other sites STRANGE . so do your homework on the dog , bloodlines your looking for make phone calls , ask for info , pictures ect then decide as you will see hunderds of dogs for sale on the net at present .:dogstare:
     
  9. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    Well people wil tell you anything for money like xibalba quoted from another post.
    just look at the number of children this dog should have, either it was swapping of papers or it's true, i do not know i was not at those breeding..
    It would have been 100 but i pulled my suzie out of this registration, cause i do not like to promote false peds, unlike some may suggest.

    Staffordshirebullterrier - pedigree database - Handsworth Psychostar -- detailed information
    aka judas iskariot.

    As you can see he has been milking this cow big time :D
     
  10. catchdog

    catchdog Top Dog

    just dont pass thet trait down the line if you have let em know, but like they said who cares, I used to have good peds that the generetion before mine the guy paid 4gs for the bitch, I used to like lookin at them but wiped my ass with em and threw em out the fukken window
     
  11. DEATH-GRIP

    DEATH-GRIP Banned

    if i know the dogs are true & the dogman is true , FUCK PAPERS , these days most are bullshit anyways ! i have a couple non-registered boyles/RBJ bitch's &-no papers & i would buy more , they are sticks of dynamite !!! & i do have their pedigree's & when i did/will breed them i make my own ped with a program i have on my PC .
     
  12. DEATH-GRIP

    DEATH-GRIP Banned

    Btw im talking bulldogs not stafford shire's
     
  13. I refer back to my post............game test v paper......:D

    If your street cur out perform's the tripled bred grand son of an ace.......

    Get a strong dog that acts right and learns quick.......f**k all them skinny greyhound looking staffs. Ask yourself whens the last time a marathon runner won a cage fight, lol!
     
  14. CD you know that its pure performance........some other folks just dont get it, lol!

    People feed what they like......most folks dont really need game dogs.:dogdrink:
     
  15. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    anybody wont ever know any better than the paper in front of'em stating this and that mating took place, unless we have been present in every single mating of the listed dogs. If the dog is good breed him to a better bitch and you'll probably get what you want and be honest about the breeding by listing the right dogs. Judas iskariote fake ped or not has some good offspring worth mentioning, one of his grandsons' (Hummer) fake ped or not is a hell of an athlete.
     
  16. darlo

    darlo Banned

    dont know any thing about the judas dog !!!
    was talking about billy b tail i have him down from bo an legs

    atb
     
  17. wol

    wol Pup

    I had a dog out of Billy b tail and got Bo and Legs as the sire and dam.
     
  18. Buddy Red

    Buddy Red Pup

    People keep saying fuck the papers and to some point this is true but on the other hand those papers tell you if your dogs parents were just backyard breed bullshit or fast lane bulldogs. I would not like to establish my yard on bullshit that why its good to do your research on the breeders or kennels and talk to people who know them to make sure they are honest breeders. To me papers tell a story if you get them from honest people. Go to peds online and look at all the dogs for sale that are dirt cheap and those same dogs are still for sale because their peds are not lit up like a Christmas tree but let some of these guys on here tell it, its a bulldog so what. Let's keep it real papers do matter.
     
  19. oldtymer

    oldtymer Top Dog

    I think the award for the most fake peds i have seen and heard about are the dogs from the mid 90's up untill 2000's claiming to have both psycho and stormer in there. Litters off these dogs appeared in all the mags like exchange and mart , trade it etc. Not bad having stormer ex amount of times in a pedigree considering he was only ever bred once and out of the pups not one was any good. Think a couple of them had different papers put on them.
    Carver was also a paper hanger of the first degree.There has been and always will be paper hangers. If the dog is good and thats the paperwork it came with then no doubt it will be used when breeding him/her, but make sure you breed it to a good un , if the litter turns out a good % then you know you are on the right track,if not try a different bred animal that is proven worthy to be bred ;) Thats of course if you want to breed :D
     
  20. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    if billy broketail was not by howes bo x dk's leggs, then how was he bred ?
     

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