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Correct definition of dogman to me

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Jacob, Oct 30, 2016.

  1. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    Here it is in purest sense of the word Dogman or woman.Someone who has a stong understanding of nutrition,bloodlines,canine physiology,exercise,and any other peice of thing that will benefit the breed for the sole purpose of love of the breed.This does not include gamblers,peddlers, and any other circus personal whose whose deep down motivation might be money,looking cool list goes on.
     
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  2. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    Also all dogs that are curs are blue dogs,fastlane,bullies and any other canine that aint game.Good dogs but not Gamedogs.
     
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  3. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    Damn must be so correct everyone must be agreement
     
  4. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    Blah blah blah blah..

    You know a fucking dog man when you see one! Simple as that! No other way to put it!
     
  5. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    Sorry to break it to you brah.. dogmen gamble! Dogmen sell dogs also! Your statement hold no merit. None what so ever!
     
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  6. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    What you describe sounds a little more like a breed stewardess..
     
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  7. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    Sure all the old times ware gambling on out come of a match ,,, every well know dog man of past sold dog from Colby , Heinzl , Mayfield, Tudor, Corvino,,,
     
  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    The entire purpose of these dogs is about winning.

    S
     
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  9. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    One thing is damn sure about dogmen is they aint here 24 7 about chitchat. Forgive me but I thought the purpose of this was persevering gameness.if Winning is what its all about it puts more emphasis on mouth and maybe smarts but those things quit on top even.to each his own.but gamenes first even inspite of loss .those are true bulldogs.and there are alot of good guys giving away alot of good dogs to capable hands or even just good people.But for majority its about the cash.
     
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  10. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    Preserving gameness has nothing to do with anything.. that's a principle that many go by but bulldogging carries many variables. Many people don't even breed!! They not dog men cause they don't breed? You love your animals. take great care and pride in your husbandry, pick up shit, feed , walk and treat a working dog as such is a dogman to me. Apbt is just one of many breeds of working dogs! there are many yard and many people fucking with different breeds !! They are dog men in their own right
     
  11. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    I will salute that.we all pick our breeds and our proud of them.I always say at work when the guys showtheir dogs what a beautiful dog but if it aint pit it aint shit.WHICH is Ignorant of me because I truly love all dogs even wolves.But I think pit owners are very proud of their breed.And when they ask what so special about pits I say you cant keep a good dog down.The same as a man you cant keep a good man down.im talking physical sports now.You need to be tough from within.And all them other dogs dont have that.BUt then those sled dogs pulling is some wild shit.
     
  12. 87buick

    87buick Top Dog

    Winning is the name if the game period. You in that corner faced of with a bulldog between your legs. Anything else is just by product of searching for the one bulldog to hold between your legs in that corner.
    Now all that by prouduct is handled very differently from person to person or camp to camp. But with what ever you paint your own picture with you are gambling, whether with money, your freedom, your breeding program, time spent on a bulldog you raised, its all in all honesty gambling. Once again the very handling and management of any adpect of that by product puts your in the dogman category in the bulldog life style.
    At the end of the day this is my view and just bringing something to the table to share to get into a more informed conversation and not taking as set in stone.
    My 2 cents
     
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  13. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    To each his own. I have never met anyone that was totally into the dogs who said, "I'm going to feed, water, rake and care for these dogs for half my life so I can preserve the gameness.

    How many great families were based off a dog or a family of dogs that were non-winners but all game? How many great breeders bred dogs because they were game? Either they could win or they could produce dogs that can win. Seldom has anyone bred two dogs because they were game hoping to get more game dogs. They bred these dogs to win.

    Just saying.

    S
     
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  14. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    Some folks need to read more, find a mentor and practice what they preach
    i agree! Some of these green horns need to talk less and listen more, Read more and post less. eventually the common part of sense will kick in and what they say may actually start to make sense. Until then they just keep digging themselves deeper into the ignorance hole.
     
  15. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Every single time I hear this sh@! From new guys I think they just got done reading a Stratton book SMH
     
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  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    With that said, it takes all kinds. Some people breed dogs, some people do dogs and some people sell dogs. Take either of the three out of the loop and it all comes crashing down. But all three do so with the intentions of producing winning dogs, doing winning dogs or selling winning dogs. Even the peddlers are hoping for a winner every now and then to perpetuate the sales.

    I'm not downplaying the importance of gameness as it is what sets these dogs apart. It can be an elusive trait.

    But when gameness alone dictates a breeding a yard full of game plugs comes about.

    It is about the package. And the package is about winning.

    S
     
  17. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    Green horns eh. Must be up there with tudors and the Crenshaw s.Winning yes but not by changing the main ingredient or cheating or anything else.How you win means alot.too each his own.Greenhorn to the keyboard maybe ha
     
  18. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    Lol.. Just cause you feed and pick up shit don't make you anything but a pooper scooper.
    If you were legit.. the legit people would know!
    I'm done with this thread.. it's pointless your head is to big for your body.
     
  19. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    I am a proud pooper scooper.and couldnt care less about the legit people or keyboard warriors.I met a couple of different so called legits and the dogs were nothing more than than 30 minute thunder.I guess they did win though.
     
  20. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion

    WHAT IS A DOG MAN.....by OZZIE STEVENS


    A dogman is an individual who puts dogs at the top of the list of activities he participates in.
    He raises dogs to match. He matches as often as they are available. He goes into the highest rated animal in his vicinity.
    He knows a good dog or bitch when he sees one.
    He breeds his share of HIGH QUALITY COMBAT DOGS.
    Some dogman are more ambitious than others. They plan ahead for the future, some do not want to come out of their neck of the woods, while others will travel to several different states for the opportunity to match. We have our dogman that roll thirty times a year, but match only once every four years. We have our dogman who match ten or twelve times a year ( these are the ambitious ones). We have the pit side talkers, who talk a good fight, or criticize the pit contestants, but when called upon to match have some excuse like "I'm too busy to condition", "I work too late", or "I have a bad knee". The above excuses are the result of laziness or of being afraid to lose. We have some dogman that claim this certain dog in thier bloodlines won or killed over twelve dogs, when in reality, no one ever seen this dog win or one match and nothing was ever reported in the journal. We have talkers who have baddest dogs in the world, but they will NEVER ever match.
    Everyone has the right to express his opinion and we all do, but the real dogman will back up his opinion with his dogs and his money.

    Which category do you fall in?
     

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