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Breeds that could defeat a Spotted Hyena or Wolf?

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Doc Holiday, Nov 28, 2020.

  1. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    From what i read,
    Lurchers hunt to kill.. bull dog tend to fight. Unless u work it with lurchers then they will learn to kill quick .
     
  2. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    My partner and I hunted with and kept a kennel of staghounds, I loved those dogs, they were magnificent.
    Intelligent and VERY game in a staghound sort of way. If you really love bulldogs you’ll probably be fascinated by staghounds.
    I consider myself lucky because I’ve had world class bulldogs, some fantastic terriers & staghounds that could hunt with anyone’s. I will say that IF I were to get more dogs to actually use it would be a few staghounds, I could do a lot of hunting with 3 or 4 of those fuzzy fuckers.
     
  3. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    All the above. Chase, catch, kill + bulldog intensity = a good lurcher
    I always wanted to breed a bull/stag but was a bit afraid. The LAST thing anyone wants is a kennel fight amongst staghounds because dog aggression is already at knifes edge with stags. I’ve had 2 stags fight and it’s not pretty, with bulldogs it’s kinda cute, entertaining really. With stags it’s like a battle of the gods or two dinosaurs going at it, scary and there’s chunks coming off. The average bulldog man would be amazed if he saw how fucking hard a staghound can bite, seriously..stags are BAD ASS..if anything is gonna give a wolf a run for its life it’s a few staghounds
     
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  4. I once saw a hyena hit ah wilderbeast in the upper armpit and yank a chunk of chest and shoulders off with o e bite them motherfuckaz can squeeze
     
  5. I saw it but I think they shot that cougar first they never released no dogs on ah unwounded cat like that
     
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  6. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    My wife and I live walking distance away from the North Edisto river. There's also a hunting club at the end of our street with wild life cameras. So we have lots of different types of wildlife here in the Carolina's. Red Wolf's are around , lots of Coyotes including hybrid crosses. Big Wild Hogs, deer , foxes, even armadillos, Alligators, Snakes, what have you. I have seen with my own eyes my little bitch on the chain battling with a Redwolf who actually looked at night to be Silver , black and Hunt of red. Stunk omg. Our little 36 lbs Bulldog had this Wolf on its side with a vicious throat hold. The wolf screaming as it was late at night and my wife and I actually thought it was a child. However it wasn't. I took my Colt Cobra 38 Dective special in hand to the fight. I couldn't get a shot off in the struggle. The wolf I would guess was 70-90 lbs. Yet my little Bulldog was locked in until this wolf got her to the end of her 20 ft.chain clawing , digging as he could and broke free as my Bulldog' had bitten a hunk of flesh, and fur out of the wolf. I fired 2 shots and missed both. I can't believe how fast this dam thing ran off. The next morning we went out to check it out as I found paw prints and got a few pics. Huge. The distance the wolf covered was remarkable. After he got free his a
    Stride, was 15 to 20 feet...We bathed our Bulldog that night. Yet the next day where she had him off his feet with that throat/neck hold, the ground still stunk. I'm certain that my little Bulldog would have (rip) that wolf if she would have been off the chain.
     
  7. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Nice story Dex. Thanks for sharing and watch out for the haters.
     
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  8. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Its nothing but the Truth..
     
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  9. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    I believe you Dex. I'm just talkin about people saying dogs can't beat wolves.
     
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  10. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Imo, . They never owned a Real American Pitbull Terrier..
     
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  11. From what you’ve read..
    I’m not sure what you’ve seen?

    Have you even seen a bulldog what fights to kill?
    More so have you even seen one what fights to kill that can crush bones?

    Your making your judgment it seems of watching a Bulldog what will stand there and fight all day.what if you seen a bulldog that could kill fast?do you think they don’t exsist?
    Do you think all bulldogs are plugs?

    I’ve seen bulldogs smash fuck out of there cross bred counter part(bull greys)
    I’ve seen bull greys cur the fuck out of bulldogs more then once.

    Let’s just say just because a 90lb bull cross grey can kill a 25lb broc don’t mean it’s good.
    Would you put that 90lber on a 70lb Bulldog?
    Would you fuck.
     
  12. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    That's not the point though really.
    Many lads have said the same though, bull/greyhounds tend to have more finish than pures for whatever reason.

    Of course they haven't seen every bulldog but it's likely that they've seen the dogs that have been put over their greyhounds.

    It seems crazy to believe that adding greyhound blood could do that as you wouldn't ever think that a greyhound could compete with a bulldog for biting power.

    I love a good half cross, just about the all round dog, obviously they will never be hare dogs.
     
  13. You are so wrong man.
    How is this not the point?
    I do like this cross and I’m far from a bias person.
    The point I’m trying to make seems to be missing.
    Here’s the deal from what I have seen with these two eyes in my head.
    A cross between a bulldog and greyhound dose not give the offspring more finish.
    In my opinion this only happens when the parents are inferior and this causes some sort of ‘hybrid vigour’ at best.
    If you breed a killer ace freak of a bulldog to the best gyp you can find you will find it hard to replace that killer ace.so how are you gonna replace this killer ace if you breed this ace to a greyhound?
    It’s just not logic mate.
    Let’s just list random dogs what every one knows about though history in any order what come to my mind.
    Hahaha first one Zebo.
    Would you put even a seventy even eighty pound bull greyhound down with him untill a winner is decided?
    Remember now Zebo is only forty odd pounds in weight.but would you still take your chances on this?if so how much for?
    What about Chinaman?another small dog what would rip the guts out of any bull greyhound cross ide bet.
    What about bigger dogs like Mayday?
    Or Alligater?
    Would you say a random cross bred bull greyhound still has more finish?

    If these dogs had more finish people would be breeding yards full of them mate.what top yards breed cross bred bull greyhounds?
    Because people I no who make this cross ain’t got a fucking clue about dogs.
    Yet all these people claim what you claim,in that a cross bred mutt that’s proper use is as a lurcher has more finish then the real article.
    Infact it’s a bit curious I find.curious that every daft fucker who makes this cross says they can finish more then a bulldog.when most people who make these crosses hardly ever have access to a real bulldog save for buying one on Facebook.

    But every one knows this really.why am I even writing this?

    But hey mate this tread has gone so crazy that a bulldog greyhound has more finish then Zebo!

    All the best.
    If you believe me then good for you.if you don’t well that’s your decision.
     
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  14. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    The logic says that but how can you state this when you just like me have never seen a bull/greyhound off a top bulldog?

    All I can say is a bloke I used to lamp with who had a few pures one which was a Reid bred dog claimed his first crosses had more finish against the stripeys.
     
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  15. When did I say I have never seen this cross of top bulldogs?

    A Reid bred dog?
    Do you know how many people talk about a Reid bred dog?man any brindle mutt passes as such!
    You spoke to some one..ok then that’s the truth then because you have spoke to some one.
    You’ve just said you spoke with some one who used to lamp?
    What if I told you I spoke to some one who’s noted in the dog world and highly thought of who’s fought more dogs then you can imagine?
    What if I told you this mans opinions?
    Would you still take your own sorce against my own eyes and the opinions of a noted legand?
     
  16. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    So what top bulldogs do you know of that have been put over or under greyhounds?

    I've seen said dogs in action as I used to lamp with the fella, I know first hand how good his bull/lurchers are.

    Who's this legend that has hunted with bull/greyhounds?
     
  17. Legand that’s hunted with bull greyhounds?there never has been such a character!..,and were did I say this?
    I talk about real legends mate,not some guy walking around a field with a lamp LMFAO.

    Maybe you’ll never get it mate?
    Maybe I’m a robot who makes all this up?

    Are you telling me that I ain’t ever seen a top bulldog over a greyhound?
    WOW man.....I’m so sad ide lie about such nonsense.

    Ok mate.

    Can I ask you fo you hunt for food or just to see a animal killed?
     
  18. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    You seem like a dreamer mate tbh.

    How can you comment on what I said when you've never seen it?

    The lad I used to hunt with had a few pure bulldogs and none could get the job done as fast as his bull/greyhounds, it's as simple as that.

    Now were these bulldogs grand champions in the box, no they weren't but they were game dogs in their own right.
     
  19. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    So tell me what bull/greyhounds you have seen that have been bred of top quality box dogs?

    You seem to have got all excited on this topic mate.
     
  20. San Siro

    San Siro Big Dog

    I would say intelligence, bred for this type of work / genetics and ofcourse their weight and height.

    Some bulldogs are just freaking idiots, while a breed like lurchers are bred for hunting, for many generations. So it is in their genetics.

    And probably the cutters on those dogs help alot too haha
     

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